Featured Antique Writing Box - A True Conundrum

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by KikoBlueEyes, Sep 6, 2023.

  1. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    So, this is the fourth box that I bought from the same donation, where I got the tea caddy, the stationary box and the painter's box? My intention was to sell two to get the money to repair the others. This writing box is missing the sloped leather piece and the upper portion of the lock. (I'm not sure if that is the right key.) Otherwise, there is minor damage.

    Looking at the price points for complete boxes, I am torn whether to try to find a replacement sloped piece, or to sell this box as is. I am good at refinishing furniture, but I am not a skilled carpenter. I can take it to the antique repair shop but that would add to my sunk cost without any idea if I could get my investment back. I don't even know if the sloped piece is available for purchase. So, I am looking for some advice. I found two similar boxes in complete condition, though different dimensions:
    Victorian Burr Walnut and Brass Bound Writing Box, 1860s for sale at Pamono
    Antique Writing Slope Desk Wood Brass Badge Design Old Document Box 10x20x6 | eBay

    Mine is 18 inches long; 11 inches wide and 7 inches tall.

    To repair or not to repair. Any thoughts appreciated.

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    It's certainly handsome. (That's all I got.)

    Debora
     
  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I think its restoration needs are too great if the end plan is to sell it. You can see it was a beauty once. Have you not tried the key?
     
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  4. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Can you ask for a quote on the cost of repairs? I would just sell it as is and move on with repairing the 2 you are keeping:)
     
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  5. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I was completely overjoyed to see it sitting there. Too bad it lost its innards.
     
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  6. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I'm feeling that way, but I hate to leave money on the table if it isn't too much work. Thanks for your vote. No. I have to try the key. Actually, I don't know which box it was originally for.
     
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  7. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    I could ask them. Their price point is usually pretty high. It's better if I go in and ask if they can do it for an amount. Thank for your vote. You make sense as usual.
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I have a hunch the repairs would cost as much as the box is worth restored. I'd probably keep it and put papers in it, in keeping with its original purpose.
     
  9. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Thank you for you input. I am concerned about the cost too. It has to go though. It's too big for my space.
     
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  10. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    To restore that properly is going to cost more than the box would be worth. This is one to leave alone. In the UK where these are still fairly numerous you can find them in similar condition at auction in group lots of boxes for not much money. Something in this condition would normally be used for spare parts.
     
  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I agree, I have one just like it somewhere.
     
  12. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Excellent insight. It needs to find a new home, then. I hail from Southern California, so they aren't many I suppose.
     
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  13. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Davey. I so appreciate your thoughts. You have to handle all kinds of bits. I'll just post in for sale as is, and see if someone else wants to properly restore it.
     
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  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    All I’ll add is that it’s actually a campaign style writing slope.
     
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  15. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Wow. I wondered why it was so BIG. Not something that you would just carry in your travels. I never thought of a military use but that would make sense. Thank you very much.
     
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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That brass bound style is the clue. It can be military use but more often was for colonial civil servants. The ones meant for the home were smaller and more decorated too.
     
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  17. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    What a fantastic source of information you are. I just assumed campaign equaled military. I love it was for civil servants because I spent 37 years of my working life being one. Thank you.
     
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  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That thing was made for road doggies! It's done its 30 and then some and deserves honorable retirement.
     
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  19. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Here’s a rabbit hole to go down. Google army and navy store, and their catalogues. If you were a colonial civil servant or military man, that’s where you’d order your accoutrements.

    My grandfather probably did just that. He lived in Liberia for three years and elsewhere, and when he married, both grandparents lived on the Gold Coast.
     
  20. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I've collected writing boxes for years, and yes, this is rough.

    That said, it could be repaired/restored, if you had a mind to.

    The leaves (the wooden slats that make up the writing surface) are easily measured & replaced. As is the skiver (the leather writing-top).

    Just keep in mind that if you decide to do that, that the leaves are GLUED ONTO THE BOX using LEATHER or CLOTH HINGES.

    There's no nails, and no screws. Only glue. Same goes for the skiver that goes over the top.

    I've done all kinds of things to boxes like these. Cutting keys, replacing / gluing skivers, fixing the inkwells...it is a lot of effort, I won't lie.

    A box in fully-working, restored condition can be worth a lot of money, but to get that money, it has to have everything going for it.

    A lot of boxes like these were torn up and smashed in the 1900s when fountain pens became a thing, because it wasn't necessary to carry a whole box with you anymore, and they simply got forgotten about.
     
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