Featured coral or not ?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Fid, Apr 8, 2020.

  1. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    not too sure about this item; well, how should I ?
    please give me your opnions, ta.
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Czech coral glass. They made faux coral just as nicely as malachite glass etc.
     
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  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Agree, nice pin. Glass, not coral.
     
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  4. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Thritto for Czech coral glass :joyful:;)
     
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  5. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    thank you all, good night.
     
  6. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Ooh, lovely glass beads AND made to look like coral.Gorgeous.
     
  7. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    could be older from the script on Czecho-slovakia. even Jugendstil perhaps. asking price 8 €, justified if old and from around Jablonec I think.
     
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  8. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    There is a lady on the Facebook page Vintage jewellery of Bohemia who lives out that way and knows so much about Czech glass. She may be able to date it for you? I'd snap it up at 8€ but I have a huge weakness for old glass beads. Don't think you can lose for that price. If you don't like it when it arrives I'll buy it from you:hilarious::hilarious:
     
  9. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    I've just looked at it again and it could possibly be a Neiger piece. Are the beads in cones?, tricky to see without a sideways shot. Also that serrated edge around the cabochons is another pointer. I don't know enough about it to be sure but they did a cones and coronets line( or something like that). If so you could be quids in as there are voracious Neiger collectors out there.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The price seems fine to me, and yes it is from Jablonec or thereabouts.

    The date is later than Jugendstil though (Sezession in Bohemia, just like in Austria ;)). By definition it has to be post-independence, so post WWI. The hyphenated spelling was used in the early years, 1918-1920, and again in 1938-39.
    Given the general look and the clasp I am leaning towards the later period, but I could be wrong. @Ownedbybear probably knows.
     
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  11. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    thanks a lot. just caught my eye on my daily research for Jugendstil. I think I could go for it at 8 - 10 €. it's good to know what it is and even better to know what it is not.;)
    somewhere I have another thingy that should be coral; but I have to dig it up first. seems not the time for selling stuff anyways, but rather to make a bargain here and there.:)
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It has a pretty generic 'Gürtler' look, always pretty. But not the specific Neiger design look imo. Neiger metalwork is pretty recognizable, and often uses oxidized details.
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

  14. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    found it. a ring. probably Italian.
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    if you could ask that lady - would be brilliant. I'm not on facebook.
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous ring, fid.
    The coral is certainly Mediterranean red, but isn't that a Birmingham mark (anchor)? Can't see the other marks very well.
     
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  16. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

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    best I can do with additional lens and without cognac...
     
  17. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Will do :)
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Wow, just imagining what you can do with cognac.:playful:
    It still looks like the Birmingham anchor, and the lion passant next to it. Which would mean silver, goldplated.
    There is something odd about the marks though. Some Asian countries used UK marks, that could be it. Maybe one of the others can make more sense of it.

    All in all an attractive ring with a nice piece of coral. Whoever made it, the look is good.
     
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  19. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The Neugablonz manufacture is pretty well-known and although some lines are inspired by antique styles, it is different from the Jablonec/Gablonz styles. I think they knew they wouldn't be able to compete with Jablonec, and tried a slightly different approach.
    Neugablonz is also known for manufacturing glass cameos in the most horrendous colours and for rather tinny looking faux Modernist jewellery.

    There is probably more confusion in dating old and recent jewellery from Jablonec/Gablonz, since they kept manufacturing some of the old styles.
     
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