Help ID & Date Copper Pot ?

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  1. NanaB

    NanaB Well-Known Member

    What a treasure you have found!
     
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  2. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    A friend and I saw that at the cinema... it was just mesmerizing. We agreed that it was the most beautifully filmed movie we'd ever seen. We left feeling absolutely stunned.
    I haven't rewatched it at home because I'm not sure that it's full beauty will transfer to the small screen... and I don't want to "ruin" it in my memory. (I have a very small television.)
     
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  3. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Thanks @NanaB never found one with this much character before-been around a bit.
    That scrumptious sounding movie is in our queue- the art direction and camera work sound amazing-thanks AJ.
     
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  4. NanaB

    NanaB Well-Known Member

    And now it will be in mine.
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Everything about that movie is poetry.:)
     
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  6. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Got a tip on the Copper Cookware FB Page-Someone suggested this was an antique
    copper Cholent (Jewish stew pot) pan.Here's the backstory of the utensil-

    "Cholent is uniquely Jewish. It was created because Jewish law does not permit cooking on Shabbat. To adhere to this prohibition, Jewish cooks began to create meat and bean stews in heavy pots that would slowly simmer inside a low-heat oven overnight. They would prepare the stew on Friday before sundown, cook it partially, and place it into the oven to continue cooking throughout the night. That way, there would be no need to kindle a fire or light a stove during the hours of Shabbat; they would simple remove the stew from the oven at mealtime and it would be fully cooked and ready to serve."
    Many Cholent Pots were created by village smiths in the shtetls of Eastern Europe.I assume many of these local smiths weren't generally expert copper mongers, therefore these have a much more primitive look than the superb French creations of Gaillard,Mauvel and E.Dehillerin. Below is an example of a Cholent Pot.

    Cholent Pan Handle EDIT.jpg Cholent Pan Bttm ED.jpg Cholent Pan Handle End.jpeg
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    looks good to my eye...
     
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  8. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Sometimes the stew (Cholent) would be prepared on Friday,with a dough covering the top of the pot (like a pie crust).The stew would be taken to the Baker,where it would be cooked and picked up the next day by the family honoring the Sabbath.

    "Ashkenazi vs. Sephardic/Mizrahi traditions: "Cholent" is specifically the Yiddish name used by Ashkenazi Jews (Central & Eastern European descent). Jews from Sephardic & Mizrahi backgrounds (Spain,North Africa & the Middle East) make their own versions of slow-cooked Sabbath stews, commonly called hamin, dafina, or skhina, which feature different spices and ingredients like rice or chickpeas."

    @pearlsnblume @komokwa
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2026 at 10:26 PM
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  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ya , they are very different from us , in many ways !
     
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  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    funny , about the base...
     
  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    interesting........:wideyed:
     
  12. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Yep Komo-That extra base seam jumped out at me.I wonder if there's any significance to it ?
    Strange that's positioned in the same location on both pots.
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I'd go as far as to....suggest , that they were made by the same hand...:wideyed::happy:
     
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  14. NanaB

    NanaB Well-Known Member

    Now that makes sense. My grandmother had a huge copper pot for stew and they my grandparents were religious & observed Shabbat. Still a beautiful find!
     
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  15. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Nana-I'd love to taste some of those love-infused stews and the ladies who made them.Perhaps some day we non-academics may actually be able to affordably test the DNA of our artifacts and unearth a bit of the history they've been a part of ?
     
  16. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    What kids dream up to make a buck these days-and an electric Crock-Pot ?!

    cholent the game.jpg
     
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  17. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Look at the crazy price variations on these 2similar pots, offered by different retailers ! I'm guessing one firm puts the pot in a curiosity variable-quality category (way below premier French stuff), the other puts it in a somewhat traditional Judaica niche.
    Pretty interesting huh,but maybe I'm not reading it correctly ?
    Reseller 1-
    https://www.katieandcompany.com/product-page/antique-copper-sauce-pan-pot
    Reseller 2-
    https://www.bigcopperkitchen.com/listing/1393864340/dovetailed-jewish-cholent-pot-hammered
     
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