Featured Is this really what it says on the tin?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by fridolina, Jan 7, 2021.

  1. fridolina

    fridolina Well-Known Member

    It says 9 Carat White Enamel, Amethyst and Peridot Suffragette Pendant.
    I’ll be very grateful to have your opinion on this piece.

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    i don't have a clue as to what you're saying.............
    but.
    it's pretty....and sez it's gold !!
     
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  3. fridolina

    fridolina Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I do apologise for the confusion. I didn’t know that it’s a phrase used only in the UK.
    My question was, do you think it is real or fake.
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I'm not familiar with that mark or with the manufacture......maybe some of our worldly members could speak to that.

    As to the use of a UK phrase........that I personally do not know...
    I can only believe that in fact , it's fair dinkum ! :playful::playful::playful:
     
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  5. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    where does it say ALL that ? in a listing ?
    first glimpse I thought art deco hanger, possibly from Denmark.
     
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  6. popsycat

    popsycat Well-Known Member

    Very popular stones, used a lot, and the phrase "suffragette" is often used when it has nothing whatsoever to do with the suffragettes.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2021
  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    9 ct would usually indicate British or at a pinch, one of our colonies. Style is Edwardian up to about WW1. it may well be suffragette inspired, especially with the enamel work. The colours are right as are the stones.
     
  8. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Just for clarity’s sake, what does it mean exactly?
     
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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Is it kosher. The real McCoy. Genuine article. Or is it well dodg, not cushty.
     
  10. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Thanks Bear, I'll add that to "the tip" and "the bin" I learned here. I think I will also add cushty, also a new one on me ;)

    About 10 years ago my sister and I went to Ireland. At one point we rented a car and drove to a small town on the southern coast where we rented a condo for a week. While driving we made a list of supplies we needed. Near our destination I hit the brakes and quickly pulled into a shopping center - I spied something on our list - a sign for an off license. My sister said "What the hell is an off license?", I grew up watching British shows on PBS, she didn't :D
     
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  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Cushty is a bit of Romany speak which got added into East End English, especially. Just as Yiddish has!
     
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  12. fridolina

    fridolina Well-Known Member

    “It does exactly what it says on the tin" was originally an advertising slogan in the United Kingdom, which then became a common idiomatic phrase. It colloquially means that the name of something is an accurate description of its qualities.”
    Wikipedia
     
  13. Lark

    Lark Well-Known Member

    Learned a lot in this thread and little of it related to the item but great fun.
     
  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That's these forums in a nutshell. ;)
     
  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Back to the pendant.:hilarious:
    I agree with ca 1900-1915, British made, and possibly intended as a Suffragette pendant.:)
    So yes, it is what it says on the tin, the stones are good, and even the Suffragette part could be true.
     
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  16. fridolina

    fridolina Well-Known Member

    I can’t find a British hallmark that says “9 CT GOLD”.
    I would really appreciate any info or link about the subject.
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    No it isn't an official assay mark. I believe it was stamped on low weight items that didn't have to be assayed, but @Ownedbybear knows more about that.
     
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  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It's very common on pre WW2 pieces and not just low weight ones, either - 9ct or 9 ct gold. I've seen it on stuff from about, oh, the 1870s or so to the 1950s ish. Whilst we were fussy about hallmarks, that didn't mean the law was always observed. Georgian and Victorian pieces are often totally unmarked.
     
  19. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    And American ones... good luck with that! American jewelers often didn't mark their pieces in any way at all.

    A lot of us watch a little too much British TV. Some of the geekier Americans understand Old Blighty Speak. Cushty was a new one on me; East Ender colloquialisms don't often make it across the Pond.

    If it's not a Suffragette jewel it's close enough to be marketed as one. Women interested in voting rights would be all over it. I think it's right as rain though.

    I've sold pieces and given some away that I've sold as Suffragette before - meaning the colors are right. One I made of vintage parts went to England. My sister bagged the rest.
     
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  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I agree, I can see no reason for it not to be suffragette, given the time period when it was made.
     
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