Featured Minton Pate-Sur-Pate or not?

Hello all, I've acquired at an estate sale a vase that may be Minton. What do you all think? The first image of the pink vase is a verified Minton. The green vase is mine. I would appreciate your thoughts/expertise! Thanks!

 

May I ask if the "verified" one is marked Minton? So far I've found three examples like it. One they say isn't marked Minton but they guarantee it to be Minton. One just doesn't mention marks but say Minton. The last they don't mention marks but say "Wedgwood style". It looks like they may have had lids.

"The piece is marked with a three sided square and the number "3". The Mintons mark is not apparent although this piece is guaranteed 100% to be manufactured by Minton. "
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/large-1880-antique-minton-pate-sur-309564440

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/minton-pate-sur-pate-rams-head-2017211744

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/27726962_a-pair-of-pink-wedgwood-jasperware-style-urns-early

 

I was thinking the same thing, can't find this in my book on Minton and although it does have resemblance to Minton pieces I suspect it may be by another maker, and perhaps European mainland rather than English. Also I think the technique here looks to be bas relief applique rather than pate-sur-pate.

 

I did find a green one that they say isn't marked.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/gorgeous-jasperware-green-urn-vase-1896965253

 

That was one on ebay, so their 100% guarantee isn't worth the pixels used to write it.

 

I think people often just copy someone else's description without really knowing anything. I've now found an example in blue and another two in pink. One is calling it Wedgewood. These don't suggest Minton.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/wedgewood-grecian-urn-248731634

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/pair-antique-pink-jasperware-neoclassical-urns-19th

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/victorian-pink-parian-urn-grapes-286636046

 

Agree, I think from what you have found we can be pretty sure it isn't by Minton, it doesn't appear in any common reference works and no marked examples have gone through auction houses or online sites.

 

Thanks to all of you for your insights!