Featured Klondike and Amberette

Just a quick search on the internet that seems to be all that comes up in frosted. The cabbage butter, a dove dish, pig drum, rose petal shades.

 

Well, if they can't sell this piece for $65, I can stop stressing every time I remove the lid of my turtle & put it back.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/142946764488

 

Yeah but turtles cool, that's just a silly dish with a leaf on top LOL

 

They made lots of whimsical pieces. I rather like their work.

 

It's got dolphins, seashells. But of course, with Eddy & Woodside in the bathtub, I'm a sucker for turtles/tortoises. I have a number of decorative items around the house that are something riding on the back of a turtle. A refrigerator magnet has a frog going by turtle to the moon.

 

Now this one is rare: https://www.ebay.com/itm/323439273952
There used to be one of the turtles that showed up in search results that was also painted this way. Never knew if it came from the shop that way or work of some hobbyist. Doesn't seem PV quality work.

 

I am going to say hobbyist painted that by the paint under the rim.

 

You might still find yours is very rare until one pops up I would be careful just in case.

 

VP has some interesting color combinations in their 1908 catalog:
https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Vall...BJRD02NSZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjQ1MSZkZXRhaWw9.0.html

 

I have never seen a single example of the Articles décorés à froid. Wonder what that means, exactly. I can only think of cold enamel. Something to watch for. On the next page, #3828, is the one with the dolphins & shells. Big leap from the B&W catalogue of 1907 & the color of the following year. In 1907 & 08 they do not seem to have made colorless pieces.

 

Cold Decorated would indicate the piece was not fired (to set the enamel), but the enamel cured at room temperature.

 

So it sounds not much different from enamel paint? It isn't vitreous, would that be correct?

Realized I do have some photos, not the best. The one that had color & mine, which has none.

 

Maybe use Pâte de Verre instead of frosted in your search? This one is described as
forme de tortue en verre (clear) pâte = paste

Pâte de Verre will have a velvety feel, while etched will feel... gritty?

Fun page (I think) I translated for you.

 

Oh dear...

 

I agree with @DeAnne , yours is a turtle with a snail finial! Ain't no topping that!

Tops that compote, or whatever it is!

 

Thanks for all the work everyone has been putting in on this one. The glass site looks great. Have to run right now & won't be back for hours, but will give it all a good look when I'm home again. My high school French gets me through most of it.

 

@scoutshouse Poked around on the French glass site from your link. There's a bare bones history that's very sketchy about the years 1900 - 1918, with no mention at all of the war.

https://leverreetlecristal.wordpress.com/tag/vallerysthal/

We know the tortoise & snail butter dish design goes back at least to 1907. It would be one of the objets en verre soufflé moulé, ou pressé moulé de très belle qualité.

 

It wouldn't be correct, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been used. Ran into this interesting discussion on pdv on this site about 3D printing:

https://depts.washington.edu/open3dp/2009/10/pate-de-verre-or-not-maybe-not-its-estampage/

This cameo of Mary Magdalen is also on my cameo thread. I think she's pâte de verre:



I went to check, expecting to find the tortoise is frosted on the outside & smooth on the inside. Both surfaces have been subjected to whatever the process is for doing that, making it really misty looking.

 

My apologies @DeAnne Did not mean to hijack your thread. Have started a separate one for Portieux Vallerysthal glass. So, @scoutshouse @Cherryhill @TallCakes & of course DeAnne, if you have more to add on this topic, let's take it outside:

https://www.antiquers.com/threads/portieux-vallerysthal-glass.31216/

 

I have no French, non!

Anywhoo, pate de verre is not the technique, but I do see it used to describe that super soft surface. Probably acid etched. FSR I was fixed on sand blast type ETCHING.

Face it, your clear etched turtle is rare!