Featured Sometsuke Plate with Eagle, National & Military Flags; 1905?

Roughly 8 5/8" diameter, 4 7/8 foot rim, 1 1/4" high; 18 5/8 oz.
Gotta run; I'll finish this later tonight, I hope.

The chrysanthemums on the face are 12 petal, but those in the center of the three motifs on the back are 16 petal; Imperial, I believe.
The face is an appliqué; the eagle seems oddly placed, to me.
I used 1905 as a marker for the Japanese-Russian conflict; this plate doesn't look WWII era to my admittedly unskilled eye. What do y'all think about it?
Thanks for lookin'!

 

Does the decoration on the underside look like a sort of stencil design? If so. I generally find this type of Japanese design to be late 19th/early 20th c. I wonder why there is no mark on the base.

 

Yes it does, Kent...pretty plainly.

 

Could it be a Chinese item? That may explain the lack of signature/mark...I don't know how to differentiate.

 

That is a stunner!!! I have no problem with the eagle/bird where it is. I like it and think it fits with the Japanese aesthetic. The bird is soaring above the landscape. No mark is pretty normal. I feel like half or more of the antique Japanese ceramics (porcelain or stoneware) that I see are without marks. Can’t say anymore about it but it’s a beauty.

 

it's almost Zen........ so calm..

 

Not Chinese wlwhittier, but Japanese.

I have seen lots without marks, too, but if I'm in the ballpark about date, then I would have expected a mark if it was exported. What date do you think @J Dagger?

 

That is a fair point. Maybe it’s just before a mark would be demanded by the law. Even when demanded they weren’t always there for a while. I think your estimate of age is likely right. Truthfully I’m totally unfamiliar with this particular style altogether. So I’m just basing my agreement of your opinion on a quick look at the piece.

 

Thanks, both of you!
I still have an idea that the 'theme' is some form of acknowledgement or celebration of the Japanese triumph over the Russians circa 1905.
But damfiknow how to tie it to that conclusively.
Anyone got a clue 'bout that?

 

I got no clue, but that is interesting. I wonder if the eagle is a symbol/representation of something in Japanese iconography. Oooh, more rabbit holes!!

 

I don't now how correct this is but it does seem to be the same dish.

Lyan Arts - Lobed Dish, Cherry Blossom and Stream — H.P.F, CHRISTOPHER
A fluted dish for salads, dessert and collections. Distinct Imari delicate cobalt all over decal printing. Product Style Seto Porcelain, Meji Inban Meiji Period, Circa 1868 - 1912 Made In Japan Dimensions: 21.5 cm x 3.1 cm About Lyan Arts Lyan Arts' Collection purveys antique porcelain from the early Edo-period of Japan. Imari porcelain is a style of Japanese porcelain wares named after the port city, Imari, where it was shipped to the West. During the 17th-century, Imari porcelain overtook the foreign market with its auspicious motifs



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Appears identical, sis...Thanks!
I just counted the lobes on the rim; 32, which is double the Imperial chrysanthemum number...for whatever that may be worth.

 

Here is google's AI info on the eagle in Japanese myth:
In Japanese mythology and folklore, the eagle (washi) symbolizes great power, strength, nobility, and authority, often revered as a divine messenger or guardian. Associated with the eagle god Amenohiwashi-no-kami in the Nihon Shoki, they represent nature’s untamed force and sharp wisdom. They are also linked to the Karura (Garuda) and considered sacred by the Ainu people.

 

Great...Thanks, Kent!