Featured Italian colonial unit ?

Discussion in 'Militaria' started by gigi flic, May 24, 2026.

  1. gigi flic

    gigi flic Active Member

    Hoping someone could shed some light on this piece.

    An silver cigarette case with an unit name. Looks around ww1 era to me, just a simple 800 hallmark inside.
    11/7.5/1 cm, about 170 grams.

    Is it from an Ascari unit ?

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  2. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    Great enameling.
     
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  3. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    Written in the enameling is -- 5th Indigenous Battalion, Eritrea. So yes, an indigenous colonial unit.
     
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  4. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    even better carving !;)
     
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  6. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    What a beautiful piece o silver!
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Stunning.
    The 800 fineness mark was used during both Italo-Abyssinian wars.
    The single mark usually means the piece dates from 1872-1933, but some later makers also punched the fineness mark only, without a national mark.
     
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  8. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    One of the more amazing pieces of silver I've seen here-congrats gigi.
     
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  9. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    That is beautiful work..
     
  10. gigi flic

    gigi flic Active Member

    Thank you guys
     
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  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    What flamboyant taste. Would love to have seen the owner. ML?

    Debora
     
  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I think it says MZ.
     
  13. gigi flic

    gigi flic Active Member

    MZ I think too.
    Did a little bit of digging about the unit since i posted.

    IF the person who had it commissioned it himself, it could have been made any time before ww1, i say before the war because the general feel of it, the scrollwork, the thickness of the silver , post ww1 items are a bit more on the budget side of things. Especially in Italy.

    The unit name enameling looks a lot like a row of ribbons from awards and not like unit colors. Something tied to the owner maybe.
    Carving the blank, inscribing the unit nomenclature and then doing the policrome enameling around all that must have been something worth watching.

    The other option is that it could have been a presentation piece.
    Found an interesting bit in the unit history .
    No proof sadly but it fits the timeline.
    https://www.giorgiopozzieditore.it/pdf/Journal-of-African-History-11-2013.pdf

    "Similar concerns resurfaced in July, when the Fifth battalion was rewarded for its distinguished contribution to the Libyan campaign with a bonus trip to Italy. The peoples of Naples and Rome, the two cities visited by the Fifth, mobbed the askari at every opportunity and generally exhibited all the symptoms of what a caustic Il Messaggero journalist called ‘acute askarophilia’
     
  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

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