Featured HELP IDENTIFY---cane ware makers mark

nice old piece in outstanding condition...no chips no cracks...and has the original insert..my problem is it has an unusual impressed makers mark instead of wedgwood so im also trying to date it ...so look at the photos...kinda looks like a weird letter F...thx in advance for your help

 

it split my description with some on top and the rest below the photos

 

The photos go where your mouse cursor is. So if you rest it in the middle of the text, it will insert the photos there and split the text.

 

Interesting that it's been reproduced.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165297666822

Debora

 

yes it was reproduced...but mine is early and is unglazed..plus mine is oval....this one seams to have everyone stumped and that does not happen very often on this group..

 

Oh, it's oval? Hard to tell from photographs. A bit of a challenge as... It seems to have been a popular piece in its time and no one -- including the auction houses that have had on offer -- have been able to identify maker or age.

Debora

 

thanks for your help....im just going to list it....the experts in this area of collecting will know....thanks all. andy

 

Antique Wedgwood cane ware aint' cheap- this piece could be a very interesting anomaly (knockoff) to a serious collector, as long as it's listed strategically.
PS-As long as it's a period piece.

 

That is a puzzler, but the fact that there is only an impressed F to the base points to it being a 19th production -- plus the fact that it is superb modelling. You would almost expect to see Wedgwood impressed on the base.

If there is truly no hidden or worn-down "WEDGWOOD" name stamp, your dish was likely made by Dudson (operating out of Hanley, Staffordshire). [1, 2, 3]

• The Dudson Connection: Dudson was Wedgwood’s biggest competitor for unglazed caneware. They explicitly made a very popular, unmarked Victorian game pie dish featuring a game-bird handle surrounded by sharp "Pteridomania" fern leaves. [1, 2, 3]
• The "F" Meaning: Since Dudson often left their domestic pie dishes completely unmarked by factory name, they relied heavily on individual potter tallies. The "F" would be the personal stamp of the specific craftsman who pressed the clay into the fern mold at the Dudson factory. [1, 2]

The above info is from AI. There is a good possibility that Dudson made this dish. AI came up with these factories when I queried what other factories made caneware.

• Spode: Founded by Josiah Spode I, this pioneering factory produced high-quality, fine-grained caneware. They were famous for mimicking natural bamboo shapes and creating intricate relief-molded table services. [1, 2, 3, 4]

• Turner (John Turner & Sons): Operating out of Lane End, Staffordshire, Turner was one of Wedgwood's fiercest rivals. They produced an exceptionally fine, dense caneware that often featured sharply detailed classical reliefs. [1, 2, 3, 4]

• Davenport: This Longport factory produced a beautiful, smooth-bodied caneware during the early 19th century. Their pieces frequently featured elegant, classical shapes and fine engine-turned geometric patterns. [1, 2]

• Elijah Mayer: Based in Hanley, Mayer was highly regarded for his masterful execution of unglazed, dry-bodied stonewares. His caneware was known for its remarkably smooth texture and crisp, clean molding work. [1, 2]

• Neale & Co. (later Palmer & Neale): A late 18th-century Staffordshire pottery that successfully competed with Wedgwood's ornamental wares. Neale & Co. produced beautiful caneware portrait busts, vases, and classical figurines. [1The Herculaneum Pottery: Based in Liverpool, this factory actively produced caneware to keep up with the Staffordshire market. They are particularly known for their molded jugs and commemorative wares. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • William Adams & Sons: Another multi-generational Staffordshire dynasty that specialized in dry-bodied stonewares. Their caneware body was incredibly durable and closely matched the color and quality of Wedgwood's original recipe. [1]

 

thankyou so much....this makes sense....you are all awesome on this site...thx andy