Featured 9" French revolution plates..

Said to be from early 19th century. Do these marks, basically a cross and a dot, mean anything or are they generic? any ideas? thanks. From a recent auction.

 

Sorry, I don't have any info on these other than to say that they are French faience.

 

I have a plate with decoration similar to your "Vive Le Nation" one and it was made by Longwy.

Here's a similar one. Perhaps yours is older.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1559423331/longwy-revolutionary-plate-hand-painted

 

yeah I think the ones I show are older but there's still no idea on the maker.

 

I believe Longwy is a place in France rather than a specific manufacturer. Probably you could say something is “Longwy in style” as the region produces similar wares by many manufacturers.

 

The decoration has survived in incredible vividness/brightness if they are indeed that old. It’s hard to get a feel of their age in your photos other than the extreme brightness of decoration. Based on that I’d think not that old. Then again I saw an auction recently of Chinese export porcelains. The collection consisted of examples in extremely fine condition with incredibly well preserved enamels. It was shocking (for me) to see 18th century porcelain that was so well preserved. You could have told me it was all made yesterday the enamels were so nice. My level of collecting finances assures me that when I buy old porcelain, it looks like old procelain. Well preserved pieces of that era do exist though, so one must rely on more than just patina/age related wear.

 

Could they be made in two different time periods? The second one seems to be making a political statement. Running through a translator, the phrase on the left has to do with a civil constitution that applied to clergy during the French Revolution. I'm not sure of the political history of the phrase on the right, but it has something to do with the destruction of the constitution.

It seems odd that there would be a later reproduction of that plate, but maybe somebody better versed in French history would know more.