Featured Antique bowl! San Francisco

Hope for help! Has an oil painting with flowers and a bowl, does anyone recognize the bowl and if it may have existed in San Francisco in the late 19th century.

 

No it's a very pretty floral but a bit "taken out of context" with the detail shot. Does it have no signature? What does the back look like? What does the frame (if any) look like? How big is it?

Did you acquire it in San Fran? Where? What do you know about it already?

Welcome to Antiquers, @thomas sundell

 

That's a Chinese blue and white bowl -could be from an time in the last 500 years

 

Welcome thomas.

Anti, thomas is asking about the bowl on the painting.

 

Could be Chinese, but I am also considering Chinoiserie.

 

Thanks AJ, and I thought it a nice painting too! I'm done.

 

I wonder about bowl

 

Thomas, we do like to see complete works including frame both front and back. Also close-up photographs of signature along with any labels, stickers or marks that may appear on the back. What is your painting's connection to San Francisco? And yes, of course, it could be a Chinese import from that era but the late 1800s was also the era of the Robber Barons and they were traveling and acquiring art and decorative objects all over the world. (The Crocker Museum in Sacramento holds one such collection.) You will have to provide us with additional photographs and information for us to assist you to our best ability.

Debora

 

There are thousands of floral still life paintings that feature Chinese items, bowls, figures, whatever. That means nothing and offers no clue to the painting's origin.

 

Since we're just guessing at the artist's creation, I think it resembles an English Delft punch bowl from the mid 18th C.

Now, can you date a painting on a plate by the age of the bowl? I'd not suggest using that. I have at least a half dozen 18th C punch bowls. I also have a rather nice painting of some antique ceramics but the painting dates to the 1990s. What info do you have on the plate itself?

 

I'm confused. What plate?

 

Just thought I'd add a shot of one of my bowls with a very poorly rendered fisherman that is very similar to the bowl on your plate.

 

Super Bowl......San Francisco ! ahemmm....

 

Not even the same shape! Pure conjecture. Bowl in painting has flared rim and has about as much in common with your bowl's fisherman as a cowboy in a ten gallon hat holding a rifle.

Nice bowl BTW though!

 

Whew tough crowd

Of my bowls it's the only one with a fisherman (poorly painted) in a landscape with an interior rim decoration. It's a low delftware bowl but they come in different shapes and sizes. This is sort of like going to an art gallery/museum and asking different people what they see in a painting. I don't see a flared rim only a highlighted one.

Anyway what I was attempting to say is that the date of the bowl in the painting doesn't date the plate. Here are some of my bowls (that the lighting can make look quite flared) which are old along with the oil painting of old ceramics. The painting is well painted but a factory painting from the 1990's. We need to see more of the plate itself.

 

That is the type of Chinoiserie I was thinking of. Not the exact model, but the style looks similar.

So do I.
Maybe @thomas sundell can show us a pic of the entire painting so we can see the shape of the bowl?

 

Whew tough crowd

for an unusual request ...with not a lot to go on.....

 

While academically fun, the whole bowl malarkey is a total red herring.

 

Hello everyone again! The painting is in Sweden but is supposed to be painted by George Leslie Hunter when he lived in San Fransico. He was only 18 then. We have had it submitted to a Gallery in Scotland and they think it may be an early work by the artist but since we have no provenance it is difficult to determine if it is genuine. They wondered if we could have a tree expert investigate if the frame around the canvas could be a tree species from America. The painting was purchased in the UK sometime in 1950-1960. My thought was also if you could find a similar dish as

 

Hello everyone again! The painting is in Sweden but is supposed to be painted by George Leslie Hunter when he lived in San Fransico. He was only 18 then. We have had it submitted to a Gallery in Scotland and they think it may be an early work by the artist but since we have no provenance it is difficult to determine if it is genuine. They wondered if we could have a tree expert investigate if the frame around the canvas could be a tree species from America. The painting was purchased in the UK sometime in 1950-1960. My thought was also if you could find a similar dish as