19th century Ludwigsburg or not?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Thomas Huffman, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. Thomas Huffman

    Thomas Huffman New Member

    Hi all - I recently purchased this piece and after researching the hallmark, it appears to be a Ludwigsburg piece, made between 1803 and 1816. The hallmark looks legit based on the reference material I have found. Just wondering if anyone out there had any further insight. If this is a genuine Ludwigsburg piece, I'm curious of the value.
     

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  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Did you use this site? I'm not seeing a lot of difference in the early mark and the later one, just subtle ones. Have you found a figurine like yours with more information?

    https://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/germany/baden/ludwigsburg-01/index.php

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    Period of Duke Friedrich II (Duke 1797-1803, Elector 1803-1805), mark used between 1803 and 1816.
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    Used since 1947, registered for special editions only.
     
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  3. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    This is from Röntgen's book of marks. It's says the early mark is red or gold overglaze. It doesn't mention underglaze blue. Don't know personally.

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  4. Thomas Huffman

    Thomas Huffman New Member

    Hi - Thanks for your response. I found reference to the blue hallmark (1805-1816) at the site below. The example given here is basically an exact match to the hallmark on my piece. The F and R stand for "Friedrich Rex." This was used during the reign of King Friedrich I.

    https://www.theoldstuff.com/en/porcelain-marks/category/390-ludwigsburg-marks

    I have not seen another similar Ludwigsburg piece for comparison. However, Meissen made this basic piece in the mid-1700's with the rider identified as Catherine The Great. Apparently, Ludwigsburg copied it at a later date and changed to a male rider, possibly representing Friedrich I. (Just a guess.) Again, just curious to know if anyone out there has any insight as to actual age and possible value.
     
  5. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    My only thought is that the mark appears to be printed. I may be wrong but I would have thought that a piece of the period would have a hand painted mark.
     
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  6. say_it_slowly

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  8. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    JMHO.
    should be looked at by someone who knows the brand. there's not only the mark that counts but Ludwigsburg had 1st and 2nd choice.
    like this by some photos only it's a shot in the dark to give a price or precise age. might differ between a few hundred and over 1000.
     
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