Can someone tell me what I got

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  1. mdlock

    mdlock Well-Known Member

    H 20200903_205746_resize_37.jpg 20200903_205650_resize_59.jpg 20200903_205656_resize_66.jpg 20200903_205644_resize_62.jpg 20200903_205716_resize_64.jpg ad forever ready to say goodbye to it.
     
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  2. Debora

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    Is it a little flower pot? You have... A piece of Portuguese pottery from Coimbra. "Sec. XVIII" is an abbreviation for 18th century. But doesn't mean it's that old. It's either a reproduction of an 18th century piece or, more likely a design from that century.

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    The maker is VAO. That's short for Fábrica de Cerâmica da Viúva de Alfredo Oliveira which translates to Ceramic Factory of Alfredo Oliveira's Widow.

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  6. Debora

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    Major Portuguese pottery center. Also home to one of the oldest universities in Europe. It was founded in 1290.

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  7. mdlock

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    Oh now you are just showing off. Lol I love it.
     
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  8. mdlock

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    Let me take a quick pic of another Portuguese ate I have. Its from AUGUSTO BAPTISTA DE CARVALHO. I currently have it on eb 20191215_161740_resize_67.jpg 20191215_161730_resize_91.jpg 20191215_161955_resize_39.jpg ay.
     
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    so maybe first one is original too.
     
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  10. Debora

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    Don't know what you mean by "original." It's not antique. Mrs. Olivera wasn't a widow until 1936.

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  11. mdlock

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    ?? Confused I know for sure the plate is 19th century.
     
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  12. mdlock

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    Yes I'm not sure about the pot. It does have a good bit of crazing
     
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    Question why would they put a false date if they know when she became a widow??
     
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  14. Debora

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    Funny that there's so little about Augusto Baptista de Carvalho on the internet. Just a few pieces and all dated to 1890.

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  15. Debora

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    Your VAO piece doesn't have a false date. It's kinda like the honorific marks on Chinese pieces. The 18th century date indicates its decorative style. Coimbra's design motifs changed over time.

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  16. mdlock

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    I get it. And the Palissy piece is circa 1880's I believe these were the best ones. I have looked a lot over the years. I want to have it professionally repaired the family I got it from remembers someone throwing something and it was taken down and not fixed in the best way I feel. I don't want to try to repair myself. Pretty sure I could but better to leave it to professional.
     
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  17. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I found another piece by de Carvalho. A bit more elaborate than yours.

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  18. mdlock

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    Its amazing work. Like I said his pieces are the best. There is even a bug in my lizards mouth.
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I have been wanting to do this every time Coimbra pottery is posted, so here she is, Amália Rodrigues with "Coimbra":

     
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