Featured Hm. How to kyratise this one!

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  1. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Lovely bracelet, with a Middle Eastern style pin clasp, but one of the hinges has snapped. I am contemplating how to fix it. It cost peanuts, so even if I can't mend it, I like it. ;)

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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Love it, obb. Palestinian maybe?
    Ask @stracci to solder it.:playful:

    But seriously, that's a difficult one, because a hinge needs to withstand the pressure that comes with movement. From your question I understand that you don't want to have it repaired by a jeweller.

    I take it the central spiral of a three-spiral hinge broke off?
    It looks like a panel has three layers, the decorated one, the mesh, and the sheet frame at the back. If you can get in between the layers of the panel, you could make a new spiral, work the ends in between the layers and twist the ends around the wires of the mesh. Hopefully you could do it so the ends are hidden by the sheet frame.
    Hope this makes sense.
     
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  3. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Palestinian is a thought. I think a jeweller would be an arm and several legs, and I'm not convinced they could do it.

    That spiral idea does make sense. I don't care what the back looks like, I want to wear it. ;)
     
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    They would probably replace it with a regular hinge, and charge several limbs.;)
     
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  5. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    I assume the clasp still works.
    I can't actually hold it in my hands to see the break. But based on your photos, this is how you could easily join those two panels.

    Drill two small holes on each side of the panels ( four holes total) and add some sterling jump rings. Super easy and costs you nothing.
    Sorta like this.
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    I would place the holes further apart on your panels than what this photo shows, but you get the idea.

    Yes, the gap in the links will be different from the rest., but on the wrist I dont think it would be that noticeable.
    If you change your mind down the road, and want the hinges professionally repaired, a competent jeweler could easily fill in the drill holes before replacing the hinge.
     
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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It has an Egyptian-looking mark for 800 silver on every panel. (A couple not well stamped but presumably the same as the ones that are.)
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is marked for 800 silver, but I can't see any country or town specific marks. Could be from the Middle East somewhere, the style is certainly Middle Eastern.
    Egypt has copied other styles, including Middle Eastern, but I don't really spot anything on the mark which points to Egypt.
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    But that would take away the Middle Eastern look, and you would have to take the hinges off all panels and drill holes to make them look the same. A nice ethnic bracelet would lose its authentic look.:(
     
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  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The clasp does indeed still work fine. I'm reluctant to drill into it, I may need to find a kludge I think.

    Where are you seeign marks? I obviously didn't look properly!
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I have found those very rectilinear shaped marks & the practice of marking every major element in a piece, the use of 800 silver & eastern Arabic numerals collectively to be characteristic of jewellery that has additional marks indicating Egypt. Since we do not have close up photos of all the front edges, I do not know that there are not additional marks on one panel, which is often the case, that only one element has the full set.

    I don't think I've seen the marks on an item that was definitely Palestinian. If you have/can find a photo, it would be a useful reference. This piece is described as Palestinian with Egyptian marks:

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/421086633886520320/

    What Google is showing me as being Palestinian silver bracelets is distinctly different in decoration. Egypt has made lots of these hinged panel bracelets with inset, sometimes artificial, stone.
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    You need to think outside the box. They're on the front, stamped into the decorative border. You can see them in the first photo.
     
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  13. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    She said it cost peanuts and she just wants to wear it. I was trying to be helpful, by suggesting something that she could do herself at home, at no cost.
    I guess a jeweler can fix it for $$$.
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Well spotted, it does have a town mark! Beni Suef, I think.
    That one is a traditional turtle cuff bracelet (you'll like that :turtle: :)) specific to southern Palestina and the Sinai. In that region turtles symbolize fertility and prosperity.
    Sinai bracelets were often made in the big cities, just like Siwa bracelets. Nomads had a little trouble carrying silversmithing gear around.;)

    Obb's panel bracelet looks based on Palestine traditionals from further north, a different cultural area with more towns and cities. The panels are said to have been inspired by Palestinian dress panels. If I remember correctly, the style originated in Bethlehem.
    As I said before, Egyptians copy other styles.;) There are also many Palestinian refugees in Egypt, just like there are in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.
     
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  15. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Blimey. Well done you lot. I'm so used to looking at the back, that I'd totally missed that!

    I do like the foiled glass that's been used, it's what pulled me to it. Then I realised how well made it was.

    And thank you to @stracci for the idea, I ought to have said that before. I am thinking I might be able to do a variation on it without drilling using fine wire.....

    It was under three dollars by the way.
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You know google.;) When I googled Palestinian panel bracelets they showed quite a few Peruvian ones as well as Palestinian and other Middle Eastern. Ah well, both Palestine and Peru begin with a P.:hilarious:

    One of my Palestinian 'dress panel' bracelets:

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    Each panel bears the mark of a Palestinian manufacturer. The style of many Palestinian marks is post-Ottoman Turkish:
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    Another one, with Czech glass, which obb's could also be:
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  17. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Czech glass would make massive sense, it reminds me of some set in older bits I have from there.
     
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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Did you find any more marks that are different from the basic 800 + assay office one? Could be a date letter there, maybe on the opposite edge.
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It is well made. And those squiggly grids that support the stones are very unusual, as are the 'stones' themselves. Egypt used to be a client of the USSR, so an eastern European source for the gems quite reasonable. They made a lot of gold jewellery set with Soviet lab grown color change sapphires.
     
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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Czech glass was used all over the Middle East as well as in Egypt. That part of the world has always been a trade hub between Europe, Asia and Africa. Beirut Airport was the most cosmopolitan airport I saw on my worldwide travels.
    With its central position throughout history, the region was never cut off from the rest of the world the way the USSR was. Czech glass was exported internationally throughout Czech history, and I am pretty sure people in Egypt and the Middle East had more Czech glass at their disposal than Soviet citizens ever laid their eyes on.;)
     
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