Featured 1825 French costume Parisian lithograph / prints

Found these interesting prints/lithographs today.

One is dated 1825, and the other one just says evening wear

They were both in matching frames, but there is a difference in material, I think one might be genuine, one not

Any help appreciated

 

Both costumes are Regency era. "Evening Dress" is earlier. By 1825 waists were falling, sleeves were getting more voluminous and skirts were evolving toward a bell-shape.

Debora

 

Thanks for the top info, do you think these prints are from that era, from some sort of book ?

 

To my eye, they look like reproductions of period fashion plates. Typically, they were hand-colored; yours aren't Foxing to 1825 impacts value (if any.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashion_plate

Debora

 

Yeah, good point, the original ones, I've seen have been coloured. I read that the plate impression marks as can be seen in the 1825 one, are a good sign of authenticity

 

Totally off topic but I almost asked a while back if your Charlie Cheswick moniker was from One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest! Love your new picture. That is my all time favorite movie!

 

Yeah snap, was totally blown away when I saw it for the first time, and has affected me more than any film I've ever seen

 

Meaningless comment for the thread alert: I'd wear the second earlier one in a heartbeat. I'm not seeing plate marks on either one, but if they're reproduction they've been around a while.

 

Only 1 of the prints has plate marks, if you look at pic 3, you can see the impressed mark in the corner,

Ps I think you would look divine

 

So cool, if I stumbled upon these they would be getting framed and hung in my dressing room! Lovely.

 

I found the first image on the site of a National Museum in Switzerland. I am linking to the search result and hope this link works.

https://www.nationalmuseum.ch/sammlung_online/?lauftext=cutée par Mr. Plaisir. Robe de tull&sID=&numOf=30

The caption in the post says the following. I didn't translate it but the first paragraph seems to describe the print itself and the second paragraph gives the source of the print:
1825 Frau (No. 2331.). 'Coeffure exécutée par Mr. Plaisir. Robe de tulle. Echarpe de gaze. Costume d'une des douze dames nommées pour accompagner les Princesses au bal de l'Hôtel de ville'. Inhalt: Kostümdarstellung Paris. 21,2 x 13,4 cm. Blatt: Radierung auf Papier, koloriert.

Ist Teil von: Druckgraphik. Modeblätter aus einem franz. Modemagazin. 1: 'Costume Parisien.', 33 Blätter. Inhalt: Kostümdarstellung Paris. Datiert 1813 - 1834. Blatt: Radierung auf Papier, koloriert.

 

That's remarkable similar to mine, dimensions, paper, and press marks the same. It's good to know that the colours on mine are similar to an original, perhaps mine have faded a little

 

The first image appears older. The paper looks like laid paper. The impression marks show that it was printed from a plate. Impressions are not always indicative of age of the print. Some of Rembrandt's plates were printed for hundreds of years. I think on this print, the paper is your best clue. The foxing can be removed by a paper restorer.

Can you give a closer image of the edges of the second print. Based on the paper, it isn't as old as the first but does appear to have some age to it.

 

Unless I'm blind as the proverbial Bat, I'd say the Switzerland Museum image is IDENTICAL to your First image!! Cool!!!

 

Nice find Fig! I ran the translation through Google. The first paragraph is French.


1825 Frau (No. 2331). Coeffure executed by Mr. Plaisir. Tulle dress. Gauze scarf. Costume of one of the twelve ladies named to accompany the Princesses at the ball of the City Hall. Inhalt: Kostümdarstellung Paris. 21.2 x 13.4 cm. Blatt: Radierung auf Papier, koloriert.

That last sentence above is German.

Content: Costume presentation Paris. 21.2 x 13.4 cm. Sheet: etching on paper, colored.


The second paragraph is also German:

Is part of: Printmaking. Fashion sheets from a franz. Fashion magazine. 1: 'Costume Parisien.', 33 leaves. Content: Costume presentation Paris. Dated 1813 - 1834. Sheet: etching on paper, colored.

 

Fig!! I have to say that you come up with the Neatest, Coolest and most Intriguing Avatars!!!!!!!! Nice work!!!!!

 

Such a shame the foxing and stupid tape on the first one.

 

Thanks! About the current avatar, this is a photo that I own, taken in Seattle. (I may have had a thread about this one here somewhere before. ) In researching the image I wrote to the University of Washington in Seattle. They have a very large theatrical image collection. They could not identify the person but did tell me that the studio was in operation only from 1904-1906.

@Aquitaine , I found my previous thread about the photo, from 2015.

https://www.antiquers.com/threads/what-is-the-name-of-this-lovely-actress.4062/

 

So, you never really identified her???? Or rather the name????

 

No... except that her first name may have been Catherine. You can post on the other thread if you'd like. I bumped it to the top!