Featured Vase with a gilded satsuma(?) mark I can't I.D.

Think it's satsuma but not absolutely sure as I scanned gotheborg
and either missed the mark twice or it wasn't there. The mark is gilded but
appears as black out line in the photos. There is also some text below
that is some thing like “???MA” or “WA” and under that “???AN”
which is probably “JAPAN”. Thought the MA might have been
part of “made in Japan” but it seems to be offset too much for that.
Shame about the crazing as it is a nice vase.
Can anyone pick it??
Data
32.4cm High 2.24Kg

Cheers
Stephen

 

You think it could be intentional crazing?

 

it looks intentional to me, and is often seen on Satsuma and other Japanese ceramics. I like it.

 

Don't think so. It varies quite a bit and there are wear patterns on the gilding and surface that suggest quite a few years. Most of the similar gilded satsuma marks seem to suggest 1890-1910 era but it is early days for this ones I.D.
Cheers
Stephen

 

Then again the more I look at it I think I could be wrong

 

The colors and especially the iris say 1980s to me ?

 

I was thinking along the same lines, only I was in the late 1970s

 

About the only thing I can add is that I wouldn't use the color of the mark as a guide to age. The wisteria is certainly a traditional element but I can't say I've ever seen a duck on an 1890's era piece. And as johnny noted the iris looks like a newer element. I also think the quality of the painting is a bit lacking. I have had limited exposure though.
Don

 

I don't know much about Japanese potteries, but I can read Japanese. The mark says "Moriyama", and it is definitely a Japanese name. I checked Japanese google and found expired listings of Meiji period (1868 - 1912) Satsuma pieces made by Moriyama. Since Japanese pottery studios are often passed over generations, Moriyama may not mean one artist. I wish I could compare your vase to those listings, but no photo was available.

The shape of the vase is not traditional Japanese style. From Meiji period to mid century, many Western style potteries, such as this one, were made for export purpose. I think this is one of them. Definitely not from 80's.

 

The plot thickens. I've just found this possibility. Could it be Choshuzan??

 

They are totally different names sharing only one common character.

 

Thanks for that. Good to know we have a new member who reads Japanese. You are going to get an awful lot of new friends - quickly.
Cheers
Stephen

 

Happy to help whenever I can