Featured Old or new Czech copy of Lalique Lily Pad Plate?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by KikoBlueEyes, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    In trying to research this plate, I was pleasantly surprised to see plates like this referred to as an Lalique Lily Pad plate.
    TWO LALIQUE CLEAR AND FROSTED GLASS PLATES,. Post 1945, Engraved: | Lot #65974 | Heritage Auctions (ha.com) I also found a version that has larger leaves with more scalloped edges called Honfluer. Lalique France Crystal Honfleur Geraniums Salad Plate | Etsy
    So I spent at least an hour desperately trying to find the Lalique etched on my plate. Nope.
    Then I discovered an article in RealorRepro that describes the Czech reproduction of frosted Lalique glass. Frosted Czech glass or Lalique? (realorrepro.com) The question is is my plate the earlier version of the Czech plate or it is a modern fake. My plate has scratches related to age; no seams, but it also does not have the molded mark common to the early pieces. It is 10 inches in diameter and weighs an astonishing 3 lbs 5 oz. Does anyone know about these frosted glass early Czech fakes?

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    Last edited: Mar 25, 2021
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  2. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I'd call it a copy rather than a fake. ;) With that weight, it may be 30s.
     
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  3. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Great. I was hoping for older. I thought it had that feel. Homage then. :):) Thank you.
     
  4. Bdigger

    Bdigger Well-Known Member

    No help to offer except that I did notice that the Vein Pattern on the "lilyPads" of your plate is completely different then the ones in the links you provided for comparison.
     
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  5. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    As usual, I couldn't find the matching plates that I had discovered in my original searches to show, when I posted. So many search terms and rabbit holes. I had found a couple like my plate, but the examples I used were just handy. The later 70's plate, the Homfleur, is definitely very different with a scrolled bottom edge, and larger Geranium leaves. The 1945's plate was closer. Sorry for the misleading links. :sorry::sorry:
     
  6. Bdigger

    Bdigger Well-Known Member

    No apologies necessary. I was just noting what I noticed hoping it might help pin it down.
    Your plate is good quality and it is a shame that it is not marked
     
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  7. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I found the exact same plate twice, but can't find it now. I agree. It would be so helpful to understand it's place in the world. When I look at something, I like to know it. :)
     
  8. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Does this look like a mark?

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