Featured Any Info on Dali Print I Found?

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  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I found this at a local thrift store - is it a print? A lithograph? A serigraph? How do you tell the difference?
    Can anyone tell me the name of this one?
    Thank you for any help with this!

    ART PRINT DALI PRINT 1AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI PRINT 2AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI PRINT 3AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI PRINT 3BAA.JPG ART PRINT DALI PRINT 4AA.JPG
     
  2. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    Based on the signature and the way the figures are done, I would say lithograph. I am not 100% sure it is an original print. Some of the lines and areas of color look a little weak. It could be a reproduction of the original. An image search might shed some light on the history of the original and whether copies were made.
     
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  3. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Trying to figure out image search on my phone but it's a cheap Wal-Mart friends & family phone & plan (because I crack the screens a lot) so may not have it.
    I will try on computer when I get home thank you!
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  5. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Debora!
    Thank you!
     
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  6. mmarco102

    mmarco102 Well-Known Member

    Love Dali's work. I would have a closer look at the signature. Very rigid for the artist and I can not find another sig where he separated the "Da" from the "li". With so many examples out there, I would expect to see another. Maybe someone can find an example out there. Also the placement does not show up on any other "Rising to the Seventh Level: Lustful" print. althought it resembles this placement, but not his signature,
    https://auction.universityarchives....igned-print-depicting-dantes-divin_34F4637B0A

    Still a beautiful work.
     
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  7. Angelo1

    Angelo1 Member

    Hello.

    Usually a lithograph or a serigraph has a number in left bottom corner and a signature in right bottom corner.
    To understand if it's a print or a lithograph , you should check the work with a lens quite good : if there is a grid of regular points , it's a print (if there is an hand signature , it could be a offset lithograph) , otherwise it could be a lithograph or also a graphic work. It depends as the colors appear on the paper.
     
  8. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    I would pull it of of the frame and look at it with a good magnifying glass. I would also hold it up to the light and look for a watermark. The originals were on BFK RIVES and I saw mention of a publishers mark. There just seems to be some inconsistencies with your print that give me some pause.
     
  9. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I can take it out of this frame I believe - I will let you know - Thank You!
     
  10. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    I would recommend doing a search on eBay, search on “Purgatory 25”. You should find several versions of prints claiming to be originals.
     
  11. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I know Dali is one of the most copied works.
     
  12. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Here it is out of frame!
    1) It was in something like a large folder/prentation folder
    2) The end looked like rag paper (not smoothly cut) and is thicker than normal paper
    3) I can feel a ... indention (?) around it where something was pressed hard enough to leave a indent in the paper
    4) If you look at the lower right corner (last photo) it looks like something written in script? maybe starts with a C ? (it looks like it's written at a angle)
    5) the image measures 10" x 7.25" - google said the image measures 10" x 7" !!?
    PS - I apologize for the yellowish color - it's the ceiling light in my kitchen!


    ART PRINT DALI PRINT 5AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI PRINT 5AAA.JPG ART PRINT DALI PRINT 5BAA.JPG ART PRINT DALI PRINT 5BAAA.JPG
     
  13. Angelo1

    Angelo1 Member

    I've checked ; there are 2 different type of works for each scene :
    a) color wood engravings in 2000 samples (heliogravure + woodcut) ;
    b) lithograph hand signed in 100 samples.
    The dimensions of both type of works are 33 x 26,2 cm ( I don't know in inch).
    I don't write about b) case because unfortunately it isn't
    your print.
    For the case a) (check and good luck):
    1) the sheet size must be as said before ;
    2) the paper must be BFK Rives Vellum ;
    3) the signature is printed as lithograph ;
    4) the scene is in part dot matrix and in part lithograph ;
    it means that not all the scene must be so , only partially(you have to use a magnifier at least 20x) :
    print.png
     
  14. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Is vellum a thicker paper? If it isn't original what should I call it - Dali Reaching Seventh Level print?
    Thank you for the information!
     
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  16. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    Did you try putting a light behind the print to check for the watermark?
     
  17. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Yes didn't see any but it's a thicker paper
     
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