Featured Any info on BIG, HEAVY lamp signed A. Moreau; w/2 ladies & a child - but lamp has hooves for feet??

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by journeymagazine, Oct 12, 2022.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    This came in to my friend's thrift store today - I've never seen anything like it!
    Besides being signed A. Moreau; who I found was a known sculpture (but even though the ladies look bronze, one's fingers are broken & it looks like lead or pot metal underneath?
    Also on the "leaves" of the lamp it says Art D France - did these come with the lamp or were the replacements? (another unusual thing - the light fixture part of the lamp fits into a slot at the lamp's base & a screw that holds it in place, but is easy to remove - (which is why I was wondering if the Art D France part was a replacement) - why would they do that?
    Also - what the heck are the hooves for the lamp's feet mean?
    I paid $50 for it; I am pretty sure it was a good deal but I wanted to check here because I've been wrong before!

    Any information would be greatly appreciated (especially any about those feet!)

    FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 1AAA RESIZED.jpg FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 1CAA RESIZRD.jpg FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 1DAA BACK LAMP PLUG RESIZED.jpg FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 2AA.jpg FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 2CAA BACK LAMP PLUG RESIZED.jpg FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 2CAAA BACK LAMP PLUG RESIZED.jpg FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 2CAAAA BACK LAMP PLUG RESIZED.jpg FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 3AA SGADE ART D FRANCE AAA RESIZED.jpg FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 3AA SGADE ART D FRANCE FAA RESIZED.jpg

    A PHOTO INSIDE SHOWS HOW MUCH THEY LOOK LIKE BRONZE - UNTIL YOU LOOK AT THE BROKEN FINGERS; WHAT IS IT MADE OF?
    FURNITURE LAMP FIGURAL ART D FRANCE 7AA FRONT INSIDE HOUSE PHOTO AAA RESIZED.jpg
     
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  2. lovewrens

    lovewrens Well-Known Member

    I think a steal at $50.00! It's beautiful!
     
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  3. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

  4. rink28

    rink28 Well-Known Member

    The wiring looks new
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    The trumpet vine lighting clashes badly with the dancers IMHO.
     
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  6. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Looks like a pot metal reproduction/adaptation from the late 20th Century. Auguste Moreau's bronze work has been heavily copied, in bronze or lesser metals. The original inspiration for this lamp would have been ca. 1900.
     
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  7. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

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  8. silverbell

    silverbell Well-Known Member

    Yikes! That thing has (as my mother would say) everything but the kitchen sink! ...maybe I should look harder.
     
  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It's earlier. The lamp and shades were made and sold by Art DE France, and I've had lamps from them. I'd need to dig out what I found out, but some are as early as the 30s. Certainly not late 20th.

    They also commisioned glass and pottery vases and such. If you google Art de France vase and lamps you'll find more history.
     
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  10. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Ghopper has the date right, I disagree this could be earlier, certainly not 1930s. Wiring is late 20th century, and original to the piece. This has all the signs of being made in the time of the Dale Tiffany reproductions. There were many lamps like this being sold in the traveling fake “estate auctions” that set up in VFW halls and hotel ballrooms in the 90’s here in the US.

    That said, these sell used for much more than I would have guessed, so a good purchase when intent is to resell. Just not a good purchase for an authentic antique collector.
     
  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I've had their lamps with older wiring and the company has been around a fair old while. I suspect they show up more often here than there.

    This, for example, is a torchere by them which I had. Not electric in this instance. I'm still trying to root out what I had on the company history.

    7a.small.JPG 7. Art de France late nineteenth century torchere candle holder small.JPG
     
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  12. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175359123987 Here's another with the same style lighting section and wiring. They are all recent and not antique. I would think "art de france" is something that's been used by various companies, maybe for quite some time.
     
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I wish I could find the damn research I did. And I can't find the image of the wired one I had most recently. It had older European wiring on it. Fifites ish. Phooey.
     
  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

  15. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    It certainly looks like you were saying that you think the OPs lamp is old... If you look around, you'll find a bunch of modern lamps with the same style shades. But yeah, there are older examples that are marked Art De France. This one is not one of those.
     
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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    No need to be snarky.

    To clarify: I do not think this is late 20th. Nor do I think it's 30s. I said EARLIER: meaning earlier than the late 20th. Two core wiring isn't used for metal lamps here, now, but I know the USA differs.
     
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  17. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    Oops. Meant to type "older", like you did, not "old".

    None of this helps OP in any way. His lamp is mass produced in an older style. Being off by 10 years means nothing. People apparently still buy them though, so he did good.
     
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  18. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I’d be shocked if someone won’t give an easy $100-$150. Hooves on anything made with legs were pretty dang common. From furniture to salt cellars in size and anywhere in between. I guess it would be considered classical or neoclassical as a design motif? Probably goat/ram hooves.
     
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  19. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    In the UK, this would be well over the $150 mark, as a decorator piece alone. The small Art de France bits I've had did well.
     
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  20. Ghopper1924

    Ghopper1924 Well-Known Member

    Hooves on furniture in the U.S. date back to to at least the 1840s, when top manufacturers like J and J Meeks were producing them.
     
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