Featured Carnival Glass ID Double Stem Rose

Greetings!

New collector. I bought a bowl and I'm thinking that it is Dugan based upon what I've found, but I'm not sure.

It's a marigold iridescent bowl that definitely has the double stem rose pattern. The base is domed and the same color as the bowl (I've seen some pictures online where the base is clear glass)

this site initially says Dugan:
http://www.ddoty.com/doublestemrose.html

But i noticed there is also a link on that page that takes you to this; which says it's a Fenton patern:
http://www.ddoty.com/hartungdoublestemrose.html

This site seems to describe this as a modern piece, but then I've read on various sites that the bowl could be older....very confusing for a new collector.

 

I would assume from Doty's reference that the matter of who made this pattern may be in some dispute. My Dugan/Diamond book (Heacock, Measell, Wiggins) identifies this as a Dugan pattern partly based on the fact that examples are found in Peach Opal. Dugan is believed to be the primary manufacturer of Peach Opal. The records for Dugan's early carnival glass production are incomplete so I'm not sure the matter can be settled definitively. It is notable that none of my Fenton books mentions this as a Fenton pattern.

I'm not quite sure where you're getting the idea that this might be a modern piece. Can you provide a reference?
Don

 

my guess is perhaps that mention of Fenton in the Hartung book is in error. DDoty relies fairly heavily on that book for IDs, so perhaps you could contact them for a clarification.

 

Okay, so don't laugh at me if this is silly, but when I was at that first link there are numbers in parenthesis ex. (2014), and I figured that meant the year it was made.

 

No - the year in parenthese is the year sold.
Don

 

LOL. Okay. Sorry, it must be fun to watch new collectors come on these forums with little to no knowledge...thank you for responding to my post.

 

No one here will make fun of you, BREN, for asking questions. We are started somewhere and we all continue to learn. Every day there is a post on here that teaches me something new. This is a wonderful site. Please don't hesitate to come here for assistance. Welcome!
Don

 

No, not fun.

We as a whole go out of our way to invite & welcome new posters.

Right now .." I Need Help " is going above & beyond..posting photo's for a new member having problems uploading to the site.
As I write, there must be several members searching their books & the web, to help advise on new members items.
Yes , there's a learning curve to the site that some have trouble with....and we are a community , so we know each other...but have yet to know you.

Go to the Introductions FORUM....tell us a little about yourself....and watch to see how nicely you're greeted here !!!

Komo

Ps...those newbies that show up with attitude...
or those that are not happy with our thoughts on their items..
or Newbies to stern to get our relaxed fun manner of discussions...
well, they can have problems adjusting to the site.

But that doesn't stop us from still trying to be inclusive !!!!

 

Hi Bren!

Welcome to Antiquers!

 

Hi Bren Sometimes we ask for certain information. It is not being obnoxious but only to help us help you. Other times we will refer you to a source to look for the id because that is what we would have to do to find your answer.

 

Your bowl was made by Dugan Glass and is today worth $10.00