Porcelain Bowl & plate ID Needed

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  1. gella203

    gella203 New Member

    I bought this bowl and (4) small 5" diameter matching plates that I fell in love with. The bowl is NOT really marked (except TO???) but the plates are marked with two: red New Habsburg Austria and green MZ Austria.

    BOWL is 1.5" tall, base 2.5" across, rim 4' across.

    My questions are: what is the bowls purpose and/or shape name? I was thinking it is a finger bowl? Was it made by the same maker as the plates? What is the purpose and/or shape name of the plates? I was thinking butter pats? Why do my plates have two different marks in two different colors? And finally...when where the items made?
     

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    i'm thinking nut dish....
     
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  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Dimensions on the bowl would help. The shape is like a typical ramekin, but whether that's what it is depends on size.
     
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  5. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    well, the OP says the matching plates are 5' in diameter, but pretty sure they would be 5" instead. ;)
     
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    oh...rats...I was hoping to see a five foot plate !!! :(
     
  8. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    They go well together, but they are not the same pattern. I can't say who made the bowls; I don't think that's a maker's mark. As for the plate, the blank was made by MZ Austria. They sold a lot of things with the Habsburg mark, but I don't know if it was a line, an importer, or a decorator! More research needed.
     
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  10. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    what am I missing? they look the same to me.
     
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  11. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    The rims are different--one rounded and the other pointy; one has blue and pink flowers, the other just pink; the plate has embossing. Rosebuds have always been popular.
     
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  12. SBSVC

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  13. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    I agree the china 'blanks' don't match but the 'decals' on the plate match the larger ones on the ramekin.
     
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  14. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    You are so right. I looked through a ton of Altrohlau patterns on the replacements site, and many have pieces with different edge treatments in the same pattern.
     
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  15. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    It is not a finger bowl.
    As bakers said, it's a ramekin and under plate.

    I agree with wisc, they were meant to go together.
    You're missing the other bowls.
     
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  16. caroln

    caroln Active Member

    Is it possible that the mark on the nut bowl is a 10? Maybe someone marked a price on it in a previous sale?
     
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  17. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

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  18. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member


    "The MZ Austria marks were used by this porcelain factory since it was in 1884 bought on auction by Moritz Zdekauer Bank. The company exported products to North and South Americas and the Dutch colonies."
    http://www.theoldstuff.com/en/porcelain-marks/category/161-mz-austria-marks
     
  19. caroln

    caroln Active Member

    Yikes! Sorry clutteredcloset!
     
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