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Discussion in 'Art' started by J Dagger, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I’m horrible with deciphering old cursive. Even more so if it’s in a different language. Someone guessed German possibly. I can’t make a word out here. Can anyone decipher what it says or the signature? Anyone recognize the image or swan mark? Framed by J.J. Gillespie out of Pittsburgh. Turns out this is America’s oldest art gallery having opened in 1832! I’m sure there were plenty of German artists in the area so it could indeed be German.

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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I always hesitate to suggest readings because it tends to lock the mind, but for me the 'gestalt' is 'Composed & printed...' & what looks like 'printing' farther on.
     
  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    my goodness but that's a young beauty !!!!
    u were right !!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::woot::woot::woot:
     
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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I see "Engraved and printed... painting..." Such a difficult hand. It slips away just when one thinks one's deciphered it. Signature looks like "Stewart Edwards" on first read but on second... At any rate, copy of a painting. A Google image search might bring up original.

    And, as my parrot reminder, photographs of the back of a work are always helpful along with close-ups of any stickers, labels or hand written notations. For instance, you have information on framer but you don't share it. The date of 1832 isn't helpful alone but a photograph of the framer's label would be because it could help with dating.

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  5. architrave

    architrave Well-Known Member

  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  7. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

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  8. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    A total fox!
     
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  9. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

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  10. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Some of his work had “stamps” to the left of the signature and his remarks. Anyone have a guess as to the significance? I looked over a bunch of them and this work is the only one with a swan that I see. Others have other images. Could it be the issuing gallery? I also see a copy of the same work as mine sans swan. It seems he mostly did very limited runs and then destroyed the plates. Is it possible he sent a percentage of each run to different galleries?

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  11. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Based on a painting by John Hopper (important or not, I'm still trying to sort out what the writing says, lol -- but it does not say "John Hopper")

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  12. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Probably a little drawing he did, I think... there is a name for that, but it escapes me at the moment.
     
  13. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    "remarque" that's what it's called.
     
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  14. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Ahhhh, thank you! The odd thing is that the same piece as mine is featured on worthpoint and it lacks the swan Remarque. That has me still wondering.

    Edit: this is obviously slightly different in that the dress is blue as well. That also makes me curious.

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  15. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Even if it had a swan, it would be a different swan - it's not part of the print, it was drawn on at the same time the writing was put there.

    Unless I'm completely misreading this piece and/or what you're saying. :joyful::bucktooth:
     
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  16. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    owait I see, the near identical swan is on the one @Debora posted... hmmm... maybe/maybe not remarque...
     
  17. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    hmm... it's possible "remarque" is being used differently here. As in, it's in the plate and absence means a print is not part of the limited run.

    Not a use I'm familiar with... others with more print experience may be able to shed some light.

    Can't get a decent link to the document with this info, but it's "Mezzotints engraved and printed in colors at one printing by S Arlent Edwards"
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  18. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I love that he didn’t just recreate a painting. He picked parts of it or reinterpreted it.
     
  19. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    Oooh that’s a very interesting finding....
     
  20. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I believe the text is: "Engraved and printed in color at one printing without retouching."
     
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