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<p>[QUOTE="moreotherstuff, post: 4341431, member: 56"]I have twice separated prints from backings by soaking them. It's fairly simple if the glue used is water soluble, a bigger issue if not. The thing to remember is to remove the backing from the print, not the other way round. This might be a good trial piece, if you want to try it, but the risk is there of destroying the print completely.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first time I did it was with a lithograph: Rieuse, by Armand Berton, 1897, the sheet size a bit more than 18" by 14".</p><p>[ATTACH=full]358715[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The print was laminated to mount board that had warped considerably. I tried pressing it (for months), but the warp returned in short order.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]358716[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358717[/ATTACH] </p><p>Removing the backing was something I wanted to try anyhow, so I gave it a shot. I have a large photographic processing tray (left over from the old days) and used filtered tap water. I was working on the premise that the backing was essentially 3 layers: a relatively thick layer that was little more than pulp laminated on either face with a sheet of paper, all this separate from the print itself. I immersed the print for about two hours and, working in the tray, worried the top layer of the backing away. It wasn't too difficult as the glue holding everything together was water soluble. Removing that layer exposed the pulp core to the water and I left it to soak for an additional hour. When I went back, I expected to be worrying away at that paper, but to my surprise it lifted off almost like a soggy felt blanket. That was the bulk of the backing gone, but the question remained, what was left? Was it the print adhered to another piece of paper, or was it just the print? I left it to soak for another hour and when I went back, I tickled a corner and found there was another sheet that I was able to ease off, leaving only the print. I left it soaking a while longer and used a paint brush to gently wipe away any remaining glue. I removed the print from the bath, patted it with paper towel and then pressed it between sheets of blotting paper for a day. It worked out well, but this description will probably have any trained conservator tearing their hair out.</p><p><br /></p><p>But then there was the second print which I handled even more roughly, and it's a pretty good print: The Mill of Ruysdael, Jean Jacques de Boissieu, 1774, after Jacob van Ruisdael, print sheet aout 10 1/2" by 14 1/2".</p><p>[ATTACH=full]358719[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This was laminated to a simple sheet of paper.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]358720[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358721[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I approached as I had the previous one. But in this instance, the glue was not water solvent. There was one corner of the print not properly adhered, and a couple bubbles showing other places where there was also lack of adhesion. I concentrated on these. The outer border of the backing sheet peeled away revealing the edges of the print, but the vast majority of the backing remained solidly adhered. Since that paper was soft from its immersion, I used my fingernails to scrape away at it. It took a couple hours and I essentially reduced that sheet to pulp scraping it away from the print, but I was not convinced that the job was complete. The paper, where it had bubbled, came way differently than the rest, leaving the print looking much more translucent than elsewhere. I removed the print from the bath, changed the water, re-immersed it and left it to soak. When I went back, I tried my fingers in those most translucent areas, wondering if they were clear of the backing, or if I had actually scraped away some of the paper of the print itself. Those areas felt greasy, which I took to be remaining glue. I figured that the water might not be removing the glue but it was softening it and causing it to swell (the danger of watching Baumgartner videos). I scraped gently at it and could feel my fingernails removing something, so I carefully worked over the entire surface of the print, gently scraping, looking for that greasy feel. The appearance of the paper became increasingly translucent as I continued until I could feel no more greasy patches and the translucency was of an even value over the entire surface. Then, as before, I removed it from the bath, patted off excess moisture and pressed it between blotting sheets. Once it was dry, I could clearly see that the print was on laid paper, even has a watermark (that I cannot read).</p><p><br /></p><p>Both these prints have other issues that I have yet to deal with.</p><p><br /></p><p>And there is a third print: Le Maitre D’Ecole by Edme Bovinet, 1809(?), after Adriaen van Ostade.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]358725[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>For some unaccountable reason, this print has been laminated to a piece of foamcore. I have removed the backing sheet and the foam, but have not gone further. I'm certain the adhesive is not water soluble and am concerned that the remaining backing paper is plasticized and water immersion ain't gonna help.</p><p><br /></p><p>But you know I'll give it a try eventually.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="moreotherstuff, post: 4341431, member: 56"]I have twice separated prints from backings by soaking them. It's fairly simple if the glue used is water soluble, a bigger issue if not. The thing to remember is to remove the backing from the print, not the other way round. This might be a good trial piece, if you want to try it, but the risk is there of destroying the print completely. The first time I did it was with a lithograph: Rieuse, by Armand Berton, 1897, the sheet size a bit more than 18" by 14". [ATTACH=full]358715[/ATTACH] The print was laminated to mount board that had warped considerably. I tried pressing it (for months), but the warp returned in short order. [ATTACH=full]358716[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]358717[/ATTACH] Removing the backing was something I wanted to try anyhow, so I gave it a shot. I have a large photographic processing tray (left over from the old days) and used filtered tap water. I was working on the premise that the backing was essentially 3 layers: a relatively thick layer that was little more than pulp laminated on either face with a sheet of paper, all this separate from the print itself. I immersed the print for about two hours and, working in the tray, worried the top layer of the backing away. It wasn't too difficult as the glue holding everything together was water soluble. Removing that layer exposed the pulp core to the water and I left it to soak for an additional hour. When I went back, I expected to be worrying away at that paper, but to my surprise it lifted off almost like a soggy felt blanket. That was the bulk of the backing gone, but the question remained, what was left? Was it the print adhered to another piece of paper, or was it just the print? I left it to soak for another hour and when I went back, I tickled a corner and found there was another sheet that I was able to ease off, leaving only the print. I left it soaking a while longer and used a paint brush to gently wipe away any remaining glue. I removed the print from the bath, patted it with paper towel and then pressed it between sheets of blotting paper for a day. It worked out well, but this description will probably have any trained conservator tearing their hair out. But then there was the second print which I handled even more roughly, and it's a pretty good print: The Mill of Ruysdael, Jean Jacques de Boissieu, 1774, after Jacob van Ruisdael, print sheet aout 10 1/2" by 14 1/2". [ATTACH=full]358719[/ATTACH] This was laminated to a simple sheet of paper. [ATTACH=full]358720[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]358721[/ATTACH] I approached as I had the previous one. But in this instance, the glue was not water solvent. There was one corner of the print not properly adhered, and a couple bubbles showing other places where there was also lack of adhesion. I concentrated on these. The outer border of the backing sheet peeled away revealing the edges of the print, but the vast majority of the backing remained solidly adhered. Since that paper was soft from its immersion, I used my fingernails to scrape away at it. It took a couple hours and I essentially reduced that sheet to pulp scraping it away from the print, but I was not convinced that the job was complete. The paper, where it had bubbled, came way differently than the rest, leaving the print looking much more translucent than elsewhere. I removed the print from the bath, changed the water, re-immersed it and left it to soak. When I went back, I tried my fingers in those most translucent areas, wondering if they were clear of the backing, or if I had actually scraped away some of the paper of the print itself. Those areas felt greasy, which I took to be remaining glue. I figured that the water might not be removing the glue but it was softening it and causing it to swell (the danger of watching Baumgartner videos). I scraped gently at it and could feel my fingernails removing something, so I carefully worked over the entire surface of the print, gently scraping, looking for that greasy feel. The appearance of the paper became increasingly translucent as I continued until I could feel no more greasy patches and the translucency was of an even value over the entire surface. Then, as before, I removed it from the bath, patted off excess moisture and pressed it between blotting sheets. Once it was dry, I could clearly see that the print was on laid paper, even has a watermark (that I cannot read). Both these prints have other issues that I have yet to deal with. And there is a third print: Le Maitre D’Ecole by Edme Bovinet, 1809(?), after Adriaen van Ostade. [ATTACH=full]358725[/ATTACH] For some unaccountable reason, this print has been laminated to a piece of foamcore. I have removed the backing sheet and the foam, but have not gone further. I'm certain the adhesive is not water soluble and am concerned that the remaining backing paper is plasticized and water immersion ain't gonna help. But you know I'll give it a try eventually.[/QUOTE]
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