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<p>[QUOTE="Taupou, post: 3698967, member: 45"]My first thought was, also, that it appeared to be Navajo, based on the size alone. The large size is usually associated with Navajo carvings, rather than Hopi kachina dolls. For a brief time in the mid-1960s, over-sized pieces were carved, but the practice was quickly changed, when it was found they didn't sell as well as smaller kachina dolls.</p><p><br /></p><p>For what it's worth, "J. Creek" is evidently not "renowned" enough to be included in Gregory Schaaf's <u>Hopi Katsina, 1600 Artist Biographies</u>. Considering that the size of the Hopi tribe is a fraction of that of the Navajo, and that Gregory Schaaf is a respected author and researcher, I would expect an entry, since pretty much every Hopi kachina doll carver, especially one who is described as renowned, would be included.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would also doubt that is a correct date, since this type of base or stand wasn't made at that time, at least by the Hopi. In the 1970s, a simple slice of cottonwood root was the standard mount, if there was one. </p><p><br /></p><p>It also is problematic in that it should be painted with white leggings and shirt, if it is meant to be a White Ogre. He doesn't resemble any of the Ogres, though, in that he doesn't have characteristic blue arm bands. Plus, none is known as simply a "Long Snout Ogre," and it would be considered by many to be irreverent for a Hopi carver to identify it as such.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I would have to say that I doubt that this is an authentic Hopi kachina doll, despite the listings on line, unless someone can come up with more proof than simply their claim that it is.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Taupou, post: 3698967, member: 45"]My first thought was, also, that it appeared to be Navajo, based on the size alone. The large size is usually associated with Navajo carvings, rather than Hopi kachina dolls. For a brief time in the mid-1960s, over-sized pieces were carved, but the practice was quickly changed, when it was found they didn't sell as well as smaller kachina dolls. For what it's worth, "J. Creek" is evidently not "renowned" enough to be included in Gregory Schaaf's [U]Hopi Katsina, 1600 Artist Biographies[/U]. Considering that the size of the Hopi tribe is a fraction of that of the Navajo, and that Gregory Schaaf is a respected author and researcher, I would expect an entry, since pretty much every Hopi kachina doll carver, especially one who is described as renowned, would be included. I would also doubt that is a correct date, since this type of base or stand wasn't made at that time, at least by the Hopi. In the 1970s, a simple slice of cottonwood root was the standard mount, if there was one. It also is problematic in that it should be painted with white leggings and shirt, if it is meant to be a White Ogre. He doesn't resemble any of the Ogres, though, in that he doesn't have characteristic blue arm bands. Plus, none is known as simply a "Long Snout Ogre," and it would be considered by many to be irreverent for a Hopi carver to identify it as such. So I would have to say that I doubt that this is an authentic Hopi kachina doll, despite the listings on line, unless someone can come up with more proof than simply their claim that it is.[/QUOTE]
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