Featured 1890s Hamburg - American Clock marriage gift to WWII hero?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by journeymagazine, Jun 19, 2024.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thrift store find today is this beautiful 1890s Hamburg - American clock co. shelf clock in beautiful condition.
    It even had notes & cards from clock dealer that made me think it was well taken care of (now at home key wound & with pendulum swinging, it's kept perfect time for the last 5 hours).
    But the reason I bought it was the plaque on the front that was congratulating a Mr. Fred Lumsden on his marriage.
    Googling Fred Lumsden 1890s brought up the link below to a WWI war hero with all kinds of medals including the Victoria Cross.

    But I couldn't make out who gave him the clock?

    Is this who the clock was presented to?
    Who or what was the company/person that gave it to him?
    Finally, these clocks even though old, do not sell for a huge amount usually - does this clock being presented to this soldier/pilot (if its the same Fred Lumsden) add any value to it?

    Any information would be very helpful- thank you!

    PS - below is the link to him


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  2. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Presented to Mr. Fred Lumsden
    on the occasion of his marriage
    By the employees of Messrs. Bell & Bieberstedt
    Leith, 28 Decr. 1896

    (Messrs. is an old way to write the plural of Mr.)
    Apparently, they were a Leith seed/nursery merchant.

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    Last edited: Jun 19, 2024
  3. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Love the presentation plaque-nice Journey.
  4. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    The one in your VC link was a career soldier and was never employed as a civilian in Scotland he married in December 1894,
    the one on the plaque married in December 1896
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  5. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

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  6. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I saw difference in date - I thought maybe they couldn't give it to him at the time because he went back & was fighting the war - but the dates would have to be backwards i see now! (stop laughing; when you want it to be something you see more (or less) into things!
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  7. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thank you! - I saw until Bieber - and couldn't make out the rest
    So Leith is a name?
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  8. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Leith is a district of Edinburgh, Scotland.
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Yuppie ville.

  10. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Leith would have been an independent borough when Mr Lumsden worked there.
    It is now, but when I first saw it in the 70s it was a very rundown and impoverished waterfront neighbourhood. But as often, developers came and gentrification set in.
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2024
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I know the note says Hamburg - American Clock Co in Hamburg, but the label inside the clock is of a Leith goldsmith and watchmaker named William Wood, and it says 'Made in Württemberg'.
    At the time, Württemberg was still a kingdom, so an independent country. Hamburg was in another country. Württemberg is now part of south Germany, but still a long way from the city of Hamburg in the north.
    Leith is also a long way from Hamburg and also in another country.;)
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2024
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