Featured 19thC Gold & Tortoiseshell Bracelet

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by shamster, Aug 29, 2025.

  1. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It's wild learning about some British or Japanese-made pieces from someone in China. (LOL) I wouldn't have known what the bracelet was either, except that it was made of direct-to-hoard-ium. We can't sell t-shell if we know what it is.

    I've never seen faceted carnelian either; usually it's cabochon here. The red agate is unknown too. We get Czech glass make-do substitute here and happy to find it. (which doesn't mean I won't keep my eyes peeled!)
     
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  2. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Even though this antique piece has had a rough life with some breaks I can't say no to a Medusa. Previous owner didn't know anything about it, as is typical... :angelic: She looks off-center because there would have been sneks to the right that have been lost. From the back you can see the 3 metal posts they used to attach decorations to backgrounds.

    Tort Medusa Mirana 1 Asm.jpg
    Without the typical spots I bet it's even harder for people to recognize it, but the growth lines are viewable with the naked eye and spectacular under UV.

    Tort Medusa Mirana 1 Bsm.jpg

    Here is the first bit I acquired; an antique pendant and earrings set. It was possibly originally on a tort chain. Tortoiseshell Bacchante Set 1 sm.jpg

    You can see the carve out in back to let light in, and the metal posts on the pendant. They also exist in the earrings.

    Tortoiseshell Bacchante Set 2 sm.jpg


    The other I have has an inset shell cameo. Previous owner thought it plastic. I've since found many similar, including those correctly labeled in museum or dealer collections.

    Clover Frame Tort Cameo 1 A.jpg


    Clover Frame Tort Cameo 1 B.jpg
     
  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

  4. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    Both the open work frame & carving are too pretty! I like how the darker piece of carving is set on blonde background.

    Do you also believe those patterns are growth lines? I’m not sure actually, but I have seen similar patterns when polishing cowrie shell, so thought that:smuggrin:
     
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  5. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    I have bought a ‘Georgian’ tea caddy from a Chinese seller, assuming he didn’t know what he was selling, later turned out a reproduction :shame: but this bracelet is a real deal for sure
     
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  6. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Thank you! :shame:

    The scutes are made if keratin and grow like nails or horns so should have patterning. Next time I'm around a full hawksbill shell (which has weirdly happened twice in the last few months...) I'll have to get a closer look. :turtle: It's also possible it is made or altered by the heat and pressing process that is used when they're made into objects.
     
  7. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Mirana! Your Medusa is beautiful, the pieces you show after her are top notch!!!
    VERY INTERESTING to see, thank you:woot:.
    Absolutely! Tshell (as horn!) is considered as an early plastic, just non chemical but because of its properties when heated and pressed. Old processes even included using leftovers and dust being transformed in paste to be molded!
    The scales of the shell had to be treated like that to be assembled to get thick enough material for decoration or carving.
     
  8. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    I wonder if horn has different pattern of growth. I checked few horn objects at home and found none, but they are seriously outnumbered by T-shell objects so no enough samples :D
     
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  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Next time I'm around a full hawksbill shell (which has weirdly happened twice in the last few months...

    I live with one.... rescued from a Victoria BC auction many moons ago...
    Taxidermy ..... & at only 19 inches long.... it was just a kid !:(
    . IMG_9348.jpg
     
  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I wonder how much it would be worth to some artist...?

    Not that it's going anywhere.......
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    I've had this box for..... over 40 years........ the top is hawksbill..... the rest confounds me ... I'll start a new thread for it....

    ( I may have shown this before...... but for many years....)
     
  12. shamster

    shamster Well-Known Member

    I don’t think that can be sold around uncaught:bag: so just keep it forever!

    I also wonder if it’s possible to date taxidermy without provenance, so it can be traded as pre-CITES
     
  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Hummmmm...
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    looks like from the same hand.....


    Hummmmmer.... this guy says faux horn..??? 1900..1940......

    What to believe...??

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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I now question my assumptions ........ a little.
     
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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    if it’s possible to date taxidermy

    I guess....... if you still have the receipt for the work !! .. otherwise..????
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    this guy seems right..... but takes shipping liberties..:jawdrop:
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  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    jeepers........ isn't it the way....
    u think u might have something interesting...from long ago...... and then there are 90 of the same thing online ... & u don't know what's what ???

    faux-tortoiseshell-dressing-table-box
     
  19. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    :shame: You're welcome! High praise coming from you on both the compliments and the worth of my meager "research" as you've undoubtedly seen many more treasures than I have! :D I saw examples of antique tortoise cameos in a book and was blown away by how beautiful they were and being such a creative use of a historic material. I did not think i would ever have any due to the rarity, but I have been lucky.

    Does it have wavy lines on it's scutes?? :D

    Zero buckaroos, but you might get a trade. :playful:


    The real thing gets called horn, faux, plastic, bakelite... If the seller knows it's tortoise then the price will reflect that though. :rolleyes:
     
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  20. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    My hawksbill....... is a real dead turtle ........ scutes and all !!:playful:
     
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