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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Any Jewelry, post: 12816688, member: 2844&quot;]They are very pretty, but the colours are too delicate, not the strong, more saturated Ming colours, like on this one from the British Museum:</p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/A_PDF-A-779" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/A_PDF-A-779" rel="nofollow">https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/A_PDF-A-779</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Another clue is that there are thought to be only two of these grape stemcups in existence. One is the British Museum cup, the other was sold last year through Sotheby&#039;s Hongkong:</p><p><a href="https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2025/imperial-connoisseurship-treasures-of-chinese-art-from-a-prestigious-collection/an-extremely-rare-doucai-grapevine-stem-cup-ming" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2025/imperial-connoisseurship-treasures-of-chinese-art-from-a-prestigious-collection/an-extremely-rare-doucai-grapevine-stem-cup-ming" rel="nofollow">https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2025/imperial-connoisseurship-treasures-of-chinese-art-from-a-prestigious-collection/an-extremely-rare-doucai-grapevine-stem-cup-ming</a></p><p>To find two other Chenghua grape stemcups would be a miracle.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Also, the marks on Ming porcelain tend to have a bolder look.</p><p><br /></p><p>A more general note on marking:</p><p>On both Ming and Qing marks&nbsp; there is a thickening of the paint where a character ends, usually also a thickening of the line. You can see that the maker rested the brush for a split second before lifting it from the surface.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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