Featured 5 Original framed XVIIIth Cent French Engraving..?? Part of a Lot Collection.

Hi there again,
Further to my last Post Thread on this Nude Drawing Picture.....All those items are part of a collection for sale....
I have nominated the 3 lots by A,B and C for you to help and advise me...
A are 3 drawings which I have had on the my first Thread...Photos detail added...Asking price for the 3 =650 Euros
Now B..It is 2 pairs and 1 Framed engraving who looks authentic..But altered by Humidity or Negligence.....They look very interesting ..But So much I think to restaure them to look almost as before..?? Big cost I suppose
1) Woman reading a book 26x34 Inc Frame...Humidity Stain Le Clere/Jubier Dess
2) Le Bal Pare / A Monsieur de Villmorien Fila/56x45cm Inc Frame/St Aubin.Chereau
3) Le Concert / A Madame la Contesse de St Bribon 56x46 cm Inc Frame/St Aubin.Duclos

Asking Price for those 5 Engravings 600Eur

Thanks to all

 

Pretty, but condition issues. Too expensive in my opinion, and restoration, if at all possible, would cost too much.

 

I believe the lady reading the book is a lithograph not an engraving. The price seems very high to me and they are hard to resell. Would it be possible to get a close up of the writing at the base of the engraving, then we can figure our the artist of the image and who engraved the plate.

 

Thinking the same for those Gravures...A lot of work..At which Price cost...Aggree with you 100%%....jb

 

Have only details on the woman...Here they are...

 

For me a real Gravure Engraving..?? Margine on the side looks authentic..Despite Humidity stain....You know better I am sure...Am not so sure with this all lot of Engravings at this price....And as well find them difficult and costly to be restored.

 

I am pretty sure it is a lithograph, even though it has a plate mark. In the U.S. it would sell for very little money.

 

Thank you for your Franc Response....Good to know it is a Litho...JB

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=Z...ce=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=Zzyn1alvkr0C&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=jubier+reading+lady&source=bl&ots=2kf84yZ5cc&sig=ACfU3U3bXb6AAI2X38NgwjcIpKneyDpo1g&hl=en&ppis=_e&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjfi5Ln8M7nAhWMknIEHeD8AzcQ6AEwDXoECAsQAQ#v=onepage&q=jubier reading lady&f=false

https://www.ebth.com/items/2071263-c-l-jubier-offrande-a-l-esperance-engraving

A search for 'engraver Jubier' turns up many examples.

Now, who is this Le Clere who drew it?

 

the pair are late editions

 

Good Question...!! Frankly ,Doesn't know...either...??? But Don't think personally it is a Litho....Thanks big time for your useful attachments...jb

 

Which are the obvious important points to discover the difference between an Original to a late edition...I want to learn that and be able to have a sharp eye next time...Thanks to inform,coach and direct me accordingly...Big Merci..jb

 

it's easy to learn, you just buy lots of books on a subject and study them for 30 years ..Voila!

 

... or more. And study them in real life as much as you can. The same goes for any antique or collectable.

 

Jacques I stand corrected. I did some research on this engraver Jubier and he used a technique which I was not familiar with, it is called "chalk engraving. The goal is to produce a print that looks like a crayon drawing. This technique was later replaced with lithography. You learn something new everyday.

 

An engraving is not necessarily a lithograph.

 

OK...But Sometimes ,You can economize time with just few words....Thanks anyway.

 

Bingo..Big Thanks..!!! You see..As I mentioned previously on an other Post...You can economize time with few words....Thanks again for your research....Does it means that this Jubier engraving is Authentic and Original...??? Dont want to ask you too much now...But it is so exciting to Discover ,Learn and see things differently..Merci encore..!!

 

Just got some news about the 4 big Engravings....100% sure that the Frames are XVIIIth Cent....fyi