A little lizard affair ... how old and any ideas please

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  1. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    I've always thought this chap was a vesta, but discover today it's a pen wipe. I've found a very similar one on a Collectors Weekly forum, but that featured as a restoration project and offered little advice beyond "antique", "bronze" and "French". Also, the tail is completely different.

    Mine is small -- just 3 inches at widest -- and has taken a knock or two. Its feet should probably sit flatter, so that's another question. Would a few taps with a hammer be wildly reckless, or should it maintain this startled "hands up" pose?

    It's a great favourite and I shan't be painting it but always thought "English" and maybe early 1900s. What say?

    Thanks folks.
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    Restored example download.jpg download-1.jpg

    My photos are disappointing. Sorry.
     
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  2. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    love this piece CheersDears:)
    @kyratango has or had one, (it was posted on Collectors Weekly) maybe she has more information on it:)
    your photos are great!
     
  3. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    Thanks CX, that is @kyratango's restoration that I've posted. I didn't link her name with Antiques Board, though. If @kyratango has any more info I'd love to hear it. Is it French? Any idea how old? How come the different tails, esp. if it's cast? Is there a manufacturer or any way I might find one? Would it have been cold painted at any stage? Does it qualify as "a bronze"?

    My ignorance seldom knows limits. :)
     
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  4. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

  5. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    I'd found that big lizard (about 10 inches), thanks CX, and am back on Google. I see Kyratango re-bristled a glorious little pen-wipe tortoise two years ago, so perhaps has all the knowledge I'm after. Thanks again.
     
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  6. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Just don't know for sure if it is bronze (the color was rather dull)... Nor the maker... Only guess is the era, around 1900, and I don't think it is a Vienna bronze, as it has never been painted as others found.
    I think there was several postures\molds, hence the tail position.
    My original CW post:
    https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/263190-antique-lizard-bronze-pen-wipe-kyratise#
     
  7. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

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  8. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    Thanks Kyratango. I suppose "antique" should suffice, though I'm surprised by the French. Aren't we lucky to have such sweet critters! I am about to post what just might be a Vienna bronze. Hope springs eternal ...
     
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  9. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Hmm, no special knowledge about these:facepalm: only what I found on Google images, and knowing for the older Vienna bronzes are, the more detailed chasing and paint are!
    Lots of them lost their bristles and were up cycled into pin cushions (easier to do than re bristle them!:D)
    For your guy's paw, you may put him on thick magazine and cautiously tap on a wood piece the size of his paw with a hammer till it regained right flat position.
     
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  10. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Only suspected it was French, as bought in France, and no true similarities with Vienna bronzes.
    Waiting impatiently to see your bronze:)
     
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  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Someone point out to me what's different about the position of the tail? Love the detail on these, that the underside got as much attention as the top.
     
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  12. Bdigger

    Bdigger Well-Known Member

    The way it curls at the end.
     
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  13. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Realize I was using wrong pix for comparison. Maybe one was so successful another maker decided to imitate?
     
  14. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    I think Kyratango bought the French version and I bought the Australian one :shame:
     
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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Is that the one that runs on 2 legs?
     
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  16. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

  17. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    Thanks @Fid. That was a mountain of lizards you found!
     
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  18. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    which isn't a good sign...especially as they are sold on amazon and other platforms, so better watch out when thinking about buying one online.
     
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  19. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    None in that mountain is what Kyratango and I have. :) But it's good to know there are others out there.
     
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  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    In case you ever have the wiper part but no lizard.
     
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