Featured A pencil signed Kitagawa Utamaro print + a beautiful carved Hindu? mirror/photo frame w/doors?

Discussion in 'Art' started by journeymagazine, Jul 19, 2023.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I found these last week at the local thrift store I go to - I think the first is a woodblock(?) print by Kitagawa Utamaro - but a regular buyer of my art finds said he couldn't seem to find another with a pencil signature - is this normal? Rare? A fake?
    I found the prices for his work range from $100s to $1,000s - it would be great if this is real!
    PS - 1st photo I took with my phone flash but it looked too dark/orangish so 2nd photo I took by open door with sunlight shining on it.

    The 2nd one is a beautiful carved wood...mirror or photo holder(?) with 2 doors. The screws on back holding the metal attachment to hang it has 2 old style slot screws so I'm hoping that was added mid century? and this may have some age to it?
    Where is it from & what is it for - mirror or photo frame?
    PS - I've seen these before but they were much bigger, which is why I'm wondering if it could be a photo frame (but why would you "close the doors" on a loved one's photo so it couldn't be seen?) - it measures 17" H x 18" W

    Thank you for any information; it is appreciated!

    ART PRINT JAPANESE PRINT 2 LADIES 1A_AA UTAMARO.jpg ART PRINT JAPANESE PRINT 2 LADIES 1AA.jpg
    ART PRINT JAPANESE PRINT 2 LADIES 3CAA.jpg ART PRINT JAPANESE PRINT 2 LADIES 7AA.jpg


    ART CARVED HINDU BUDDHA MIRROR PICTURE FRAME 1AA.jpg ART CARVED HINDU BUDDHA MIRROR PICTURE FRAME 2AA.jpg
    ART CARVED HINDU BUDDHA MIRROR PICTURE FRAME 3AA.jpg ART CARVED HINDU BUDDHA MIRROR PICTURE FRAME 4AA.jpg ART CARVED HINDU BUDDHA MIRROR PICTURE FRAME 5DAA.jpg
    ART CARVED HINDU BUDDHA MIRROR PICTURE FRAME 7AA.jpg
     
  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    The print has a lot of acid mat burn. :(
     
  3. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I know I saw it - want to be sure it's real/worth it before I remove it & replace matting.
     
  4. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Not sure if Utamaro would have signed this 'Utamaro' in 18th century Japan-maybe added by a later dealer ? Is that pencil signed on the mat board or actual print itself ?
     
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  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Is the print DOUBLE matted???? To me, from the pictures, it's hard to tell..........
     
  6. Roshan Ko

    Roshan Ko Well-Known Member

    I think the term you are looking for is Jharokha
    You can try Jhaorkha with shutters.

    To me the carving doesnt look very Indian, may be south east asian, but not Indian. Jharokas are normally popular in North India and the carving is more akin to South Indian. confusing.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    He wouldn't have. So not signed, but probably added by a collector or dealer.
    I agree, it looks South Indian. Could even be Sri Lankan Hindu.
     
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  8. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Might the carved wooden frame/window be intended for use in a "pooja/puja mandir", a home shrine for a Hindu deity?
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Those are usually 3D, like a box or cabinet, sometimes open-fronted, sometimes with doors. Mine is open, no doors.
     
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