Featured A tail of a frog and a snail(shell).

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  1. mmarco102

    mmarco102 MKleais

    Hello, I recently acquired these four figures of a frog dragging a snail shell on a cabbage leaves. It’s mark “CLEMENT MASSIER * GOLFE JUAN (A.M.) who seems turn of the 20th C. http://www.ceramique-massier.com/pages/history.php

    In trying to get info, I started to see many versions of this with some dated around the same time, made in a variety of materials. Can someone help isolate the original artist version and what might be the story behind this popular piece. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Below are other versions....

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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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    Bronwen Well-Known Member


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  4. Lecollectionneur

    Lecollectionneur Well-Known Member

    I've found a little more in english than you have about Clement Massier, you're lucky to have found four together, normally they have lots or broken some in a table set, four is a good number for a service, sometimes you can have 2 or 6.
    The use as a salt depends from the size which you don't give in your description, if they are about 25-35mm. in the aperture it is salt, bigger they can be for other table use, entremet for example.
    In Europe Clement Massier is found in a very big lot of ware sizes in art pottery to exterior pottery.
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  5. mmarco102

    mmarco102 MKleais

    Thank you for your response, I really appreciate the article and found it very interesting. I apologize for leaving size out, they are 8 inches long.
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Maybe @kyratango knows if there is a story behind the frog and the snail(shell).:)
    Other than that they are both eaten.
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  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    And here it is as a match holder/striker:

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  8. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Well-Known Member

    I’ll still say sweetmeat servers.
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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Seems like you have France for the country of origin since Massier did the ceramic version & Louchet is credited with doing it in metal & putting the bug on the shell. Turn of the 20th century seems to be the time.
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  10. mmarco102

    mmarco102 MKleais

    I find it amazing, so many verions with no obvious begining. It seemed to catch many makers eye
  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  12. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    As an aficionado of snails, frog legs, and even rabbit, I can see the genesis.

    Incidentally, that green frog up there looks pie-eyed, zonked, three sheets to the wind! :)
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  13. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    Those are adorable. I'll have to add Massier to my auction alerts!
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  14. Darkwing Manor

    Darkwing Manor Well-Known Member

    This reminds me of some of the Furness.jpg whimsical work by Frank Furness.
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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I appreciate the work, but don't think I could live with this constant reminder of nature, red in tooth and claw and beak.
  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    those legs could almost be mistaken for Northwest Coast art work.........

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  17. mmarco102

    mmarco102 MKleais

    There is a very strange connection between the Frog and the Snail. Some lost ancient secret indeed. Why hasn’t someone made millions selling a childrens book on this .... :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Maybe because Toad nipped in first?

    They do occupy the same habitat.
  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile the Portieux Vallerysthal thread has been working over a tortoise with a snail on its back.
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  20. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

    I would more be wondering why we can’t find these made by Clement Massier, and as to their scarcity. :)

    Maybe a reference or a contact here.
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