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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 239809, member: 44"]Off and on since this query was posted, I have looked for the maker of this touchmark, IR, with no luck. The big problem is the lack of any device with the initials. Most pewter touchmarks will have initials with such devices as a lion, rose, crown, anchor, star, etc.... or a combination of devices. Cotterell's <i>Old Pewter, Its Makers and Marks</i>, has several IR touchmarks like I.R. but all with devises. Also just about all of them date too early for this mug. Thirdly several of makers touchmarks with an IR and devises are unknown.</p><p>Examples:</p><p> One of John Watts of London touchmarks comprised of 4 stamps: lion rampant, leopard's face, bird and I.R. His dates are the mid 1700s.</p><p> John Reynolds of London had several pewter touchmarks with IR combined with a such things as a fox or star, but he dates to the 1600s.</p><p><br /></p><p>You may be aware of the following, but in case not. Back in those days, Js were usually written as Is. So if a person's name was say John Reynolds, his initials would be written as IR.</p><p><br /></p><p>I could not remember William IV's dates as King of the UK - having a senior moment. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/frown.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":(" unselectable="on" /> I knew QV ascended the throne on his death - 1837, but I couldn't remember when he ascended the throne. I guess it was in 1830? Sooo I guess this mug dates from 1830-1837.</p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: BTW, welcome to the forums!</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit #2: Do look down inside the mug for any other markings. Marks in the bottom are called pot marks. Sometimes maker's punched their touchmarks down inside of mugs, measures and tankards.</p><p><a href="http://www.pewterbank.com/html/mug_-_measure_marks.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pewterbank.com/html/mug_-_measure_marks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pewterbank.com/html/mug_-_measure_marks.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Edit #3: There is always a chance the "IR" were the initials of the original owner and not of the maker???[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 239809, member: 44"]Off and on since this query was posted, I have looked for the maker of this touchmark, IR, with no luck. The big problem is the lack of any device with the initials. Most pewter touchmarks will have initials with such devices as a lion, rose, crown, anchor, star, etc.... or a combination of devices. Cotterell's [I]Old Pewter, Its Makers and Marks[/I], has several IR touchmarks like I.R. but all with devises. Also just about all of them date too early for this mug. Thirdly several of makers touchmarks with an IR and devises are unknown. Examples: One of John Watts of London touchmarks comprised of 4 stamps: lion rampant, leopard's face, bird and I.R. His dates are the mid 1700s. John Reynolds of London had several pewter touchmarks with IR combined with a such things as a fox or star, but he dates to the 1600s. You may be aware of the following, but in case not. Back in those days, Js were usually written as Is. So if a person's name was say John Reynolds, his initials would be written as IR. I could not remember William IV's dates as King of the UK - having a senior moment. :( I knew QV ascended the throne on his death - 1837, but I couldn't remember when he ascended the throne. I guess it was in 1830? Sooo I guess this mug dates from 1830-1837. --- Susan Edit: BTW, welcome to the forums! Edit #2: Do look down inside the mug for any other markings. Marks in the bottom are called pot marks. Sometimes maker's punched their touchmarks down inside of mugs, measures and tankards. [URL]http://www.pewterbank.com/html/mug_-_measure_marks.html[/URL] Edit #3: There is always a chance the "IR" were the initials of the original owner and not of the maker???[/QUOTE]
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