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Message:: [QUOTE="komokwa, post: 11369860, member: 301"]<img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Kwakiutl_thunderbird_totem_poles_and_house_belonging_to_Nimpkish_Chief_Tlah-Co-Glass%2C_Alert_Bay%2C_British_Columbia%2C_circa_1923_%28AL%2BCA_2105%29.jpg?20190325044455" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> these two famous Alert Bay poles have been copied by native and non native artists alike . They are of the most reproduced designs for tourist Model Poles among all NWC poles , up and down the coast , so it is no wonder even Alaskan artists have used their designs. It's a shame that ANAC does not mention ... genuine native made , but only made in Alaska ! Worse even that no artist is identified , but that speaks to a workshop where several native  artists , using a traditional straight blade , carved these out at breakneck speed for the growing tourist market ! ( being unpainted also suggests they worked from black and white photo's of original poles ) That said..... the carving is better than the designs on it , but still a handsome , nice sized model pole circa , I would think from the late 1960's thru 70's....... Knowing who carved this pole......... is just not possible.... imo ![/QUOTE]