Antique cloisonné teapot ...OK Asian Art Super Sleuths, ...What Can You Tell Me?

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  1. Warren Wiberg

    Warren Wiberg Member

    20210109_200907.png 20210109_200836.png 20210109_200814.png 20210109_200727-2.png 20210109_200650-2.png Very impressed with the expertise shown last time I was on, (first time) with My Guan Yu.
    New challenge for my learned Asian Art Experts. Bought this beautiful cloisonné teapot a few years ago, the lid spike was slightly bent but otherwise fairly good shape. Curious as to it's past. The makers mark doesn't appear to be Chinese characters. Possible valuation or comparable's you have seen? Pour a glass of wine.....Who's up for a challenge? 20210109_200532-4.png
     

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  2. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I don’t even know if this is in the right orientation, but others WILL!! For FUTURE reference, could you please, when you post your images, (or you could go back in while there’s still time to!) and click on the VERY TOP IMAGE THAT SAYS TO “POST EVERY IMAG FULL SIZE”.....then we’re not all looking at thumbnails!! Thanks a bunch!! :happy: BTW- teapot looks LOVELY!!!! I do have a question after looking at the thumbnails blown up.....it looks like wire decoration in the spout & handle, but is all the other ‘painted’ design in the teapot itself outlined with wire?? I’m just not seeing it, or the images aren’t clear enough, or it’s my eyes!!

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  4. Warren Wiberg

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    I think the teapot you have found and the reign mark are very similar....AMAZING. I think if I rotate the image of the mark 90 degrees clock wise ...it is similar in some respects. I tried to post images full size but it keeps restricting to less than 1 MB. I had to use an image editor to resize each 8 MB image to get them accepted...didn't see opportunity to accept full size images.
     
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    07C4F106-994F-40A4-9D6A-0B142E280609.jpeg Check this box, next time, AFTER all photos are uploaded.
     
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  6. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    That’s because images posted here MUST be under 1 MB each!! MOST image resizers do a pretty good job of keeping quality though!!
     
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  7. Warren Wiberg

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    20210109_200650.png Here is image rotated 90 degrees clockwise ....see the eye shaped glyph in the right corner....
     
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    F29BF4A0-F38D-4C43-A9DE-86FEBC9BC488.jpeg Here’s a side by side both the same way (no idea if they are facing correctly)
     
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  9. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

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  11. Warren Wiberg

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    OMG YOU ARE GOOD!
    They are identical....TOP SHELF DETECTIVE! BOOK 'EM DANO!
     
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  12. Warren Wiberg

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    Well done! That's a match!
     
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    So here is where I beg out. Others here know far more about Asian marks than I. Maybe someone will be along with more information.
     
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  15. Warren Wiberg

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    Well done! You get a GOLD STAR and Yes, it would be nice to have some expertise on identifying meaning like "precious objects" and dynasty info. Hopefully someone "Tags" in.
     
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  16. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Did anyone else happen to notice this VERY happy, quirky guy when one rotates this ‘chop’ if that’s what it’s called???? And is that customary for these marks?????:happy::rolleyes::smuggrin: (And once you see it, you don’t UNsee it!!!:D)

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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The colourful style of the cloisonné on your teapot is Ming, but the pot certainly isn't Ming. I see no bubbles in the enamel, so I would date it to the 20th century, probably fairly early.
    The mark looks like Qianlong to me, but that is usually an apocryphal mark, put on to honour a great period in Chinese arts.
    Most Chinese marks are not of the actual period.
     
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  18. Warren Wiberg

    Warren Wiberg Member

    "Winking" ...yeah once you see that it definitely is your focus.
     
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  19. Warren Wiberg

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    Definitely Zhuonshu script....looking through marks now....
     
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