Antique european saber?

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  1. Nuno899

    Nuno899 Member

    Yes that can be
     
  2. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    I don’t know about sabers, just wanted to say what an adorable kitty! :cat:
     
  3. Nuno899

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    :happy:Yes that is an incredible cat, a female actually, and not mine, but my sister's.
    I have 4 old cats, ages between 7 and 19 yo.
    Cats are astonishing animals.
     
  4. Nuno899

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    It is a British Shorthair btw
     
  5. i need help

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    I had not heard of that breed. Just took a look at some online, beautiful!
     
  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it looks like it wants to be a civil war era saber but I'm having trouble finding a wood handle with a brass cast backstrap like yours....
     
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  7. Nuno899

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    You mean American Civil War?
    It is unlikely, as this was bought in Portugal.
     
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  8. Nuno899

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    Yes please.
    I see anything.
    Here more detail photos.
     

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  9. Nuno899

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    I forgot to say the blade is blunt, but that was common also, only sharpened for battle
     
  10. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I have to say that other than where I've circled, I'm now not seeing what I saw in that other image, other than a very few letters that I've circled: #1- maybe SC or ST, #2- clearly an N and #3- what looks like S P, but the P is iffy/or unclear! What looked like letters yesterday I'm not seeing in these images today.....did you get a chance to look with a STRONG Magnifying glass??

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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Could you please confirm this statement , with a historic account or the comments of some military expert that wrote on the subject..?
     
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  12. springfld.arsenal

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    The handle is the most distinctive feature. There is a U.K.-based sword ID site u could try, or the popular Vikingsword forums, to learn for academic reasons. The sword has very little If any collector value due to poor condition and lack of scabbard. At a gun show in the US, swords of that age and condition might be priced at $50., with the seller very eager to negotiate or trade for almost anything.
     
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  13. Nuno899

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    I have checked with a magnifying glass but couldn't see any numbers, letters or any kind of mark.
    The photos were taken in different light conditions so that can cause shades that can look like marks
     
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  14. Nuno899

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    No I can't, actually that
    I can't confirm that myself, but please watch an YouTube channel - Scholagladiatoria made by an UK (I think) sword expert who talked about that subject
     
  15. Nuno899

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    Thank you very much for that information, I will check those sites for unfirnation
    This saber was not expensive, it is the first one I bought and am trying to find if it is authentic, because have very little information about it
    Also am planning to make a visit to local military museum, they have on show these kind of weapons.
     
  16. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    good, you have to start somewhere. If you can find arms fairs to attend there will be dealers who will explain a lot about the items. If you want your collection to have value, buy the best original-condition, complete items you can afford. Borrow or buy books Written by reputable authors, preferably books that address a narrow segment of the field, that way you can see the differences between similar swords. Specializing within the field is good, don’t try to deal with any type sword of any era, get smart on one historical period and maybe within one country, at first anyway. Join Facebook groups and participate in online forums.
     
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  17. Nuno899

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    Thank you for your help and advice.
    I'm currently trying to attend historical fencing lessons s here in my city, also would like to know more about these weapons, however still haven't a chosen period or era of interest.
     
  18. Nuno899

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    BTW can you post a link to that UK site?
    (if forum rules allow that)
     
  19. Nuno899

    Nuno899 Member

    I have contacted seller yesterday, he told me the blade was heavily polished and any marks that were present are gone. Looking closely on the blade you can see that is true.
    This sword has more than 100 years according to him and the blade is also corroded so very difficult to find any mark.
     
  20. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    you can grind marks down....
    but you can't polish them off........

    even a pitted 100 plus year old blade.....would still show foundry marks..
    if the steel was military grade..
     
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