Featured Antique Native American Disc Necklace,Birds,Mayan or Actez Fifures

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by antiquelover69, May 15, 2019.

  1. antiquelover69

    antiquelover69 Well-Known Member

    I know this is an old Native American Disc necklace,but it has 2 birds and 2 Mayan or Actez figures.I'm not sure if it's shells or what.I have a few but this is a strange one to me. SAM_0188.JPG SAM_0183.JPG SAM_0184.JPG SAM_0185.JPG SAM_0187.JPG SAM_0189.JPG
     
  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Looks like a fairly recent puka shell necklace to me.

    Debora
     
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  3. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    They are not puka shells, the OP's have been shaped by humans.
     
  4. Dawnno

    Dawnno Well-Known Member

    The loop pendant at the bottom is not a shape I've seen used in modern Native American jewelry. Navajo jewelry makers at road stands or tourist spots use a much more delicate set of carved bird beads, and again, I've never seen human effigial figures used either. Usually animal fetishes. This would be more typical:

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  5. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I would assume this necklace is not antique in this form, but perhaps a reuse of older heishe shell beads in a newer assemblage.
     
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  6. Dawnno

    Dawnno Well-Known Member

    I'm wondering, @2manybooks @antiquelover69, if further dissection might be useful (at least it would help me). It doesn't seem to have sufficient weathering to be ancient, nor is "recent" modern. It may be an assemblage, and certainly must be given the crimpings and findings. So do you recognize any parts, e.g. the pendant/beads, e.g., from Pacific Coast tribes? "Aztec" is mentioned, but the overall piece just doesn't look ancient to me, nor 'recent'... seems the loop pendant has the best 'potential'.

    "inconclusive"???
     
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  7. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    If I am remembering correctly (which becomes a more problematic assumption with each year :)), the shell beads look like Californian. But similar ones might be made elsewhere. The little figures and the pendant look to me like clay, and the birds look like bone. All of these could have come from any bead store in the last 20 years, made in India, China, or elsewhere. As you note, the fishing line and other fittings look quite recent.
     
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  8. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, the shell beads don't look very old. The birds could be clay as well, they and the effigy beads are cute.
    But as @2manybooks said, shops that sell 'ethnic' beads sell similar beads.

    It could be a Native American/pre-Hispanic inspired home made necklace, made from an existing heishi necklace, and some clay beads added for a nice touch. Just guessing.
     
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  10. The heishi (thin disks) are nautilus shell, the fetishes hand made clay/pottery. Most likely came from Mexico/Central America. Late 1970s/early 1980s. Pretty common to find necklaces like this at flea markets in Santa Fe back in the day. They were an effort to compete with Navajo jewelry.
     
  11. antiquelover69

    antiquelover69 Well-Known Member

    The reason I put the word "Aztec is because the little figures look like the old Aztec.I'm not sure how old this piece is.
     
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  12. I'd say late 70s/early 80s. The fetishes are wee handmade clay figures; very cool, but based on them being with the necklace, not old, old. Bet, however, it's possible a person made them who may have Aztec ancestors?:)
     
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