Any guesses on the age of this NYC photo?

Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by Pat P, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Don't you think what can be seen in your photo is the same church as the one in the link I sent, Holy Cross?

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  2. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    What, me rethink things? Story of my life... lots of think, lots less action! :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

    The reason I was trying to identify the decade is 'cause of eBay's stupid demarcation between before and after 1940.

    Agreed about identifying the photographer... I'll have to do more sleuthing. :)
     
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  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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    Holy Cross Church.
     
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  4. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Oops, I hadn't looked at the link yet. Thanks for identifying it! :)
     
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  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I'd assume someone would be interested but cropping affects value and fact that, although period photograph, photographer unknown. Lots of well known artists photographed the building including Bernice Abbott and Paul J. Wolff. Yours was obviously shot by someone with comparable talent.

    Debora

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  7. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Was the last photo available at a larger size? Did it give a date?
     
  8. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Debora, I am curious as to what you are seeing that makes you think this is a duotone reproduction, as opposed to an actual b&w photo.

    A duotone would be a halftone process (using 2 colors). If so, a pattern of dots would be visible under magnification. @Pat P , do you have a magnifying glass?
     
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  9. Debora

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  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    No idea what it is. On my monitor, reads with a green cast and not as a b&w image. Others may see differently.

    Debora
     
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  11. KikoBlueEyes

    KikoBlueEyes Well-Known Member

    Actually, I think it is a quite beautiful image - starkly outlined against the sky with the soft background. Large black and white on glossy paper sounds to me like a promotional photograph as you previously thought or perhaps part of an exhibit. I think the building was already occupied as some of the windows are open, so it might not be at the time of the original construction. Sorry I can't help with age, but as I said only people who took art photographs would work in black and white past the general availability of color photography. The fact that you can't see the pixels also lends credibility to an earlier age. There are people on this site that know far more than I do, so please take these comments with a grain of salt.
     
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  12. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Oh, I've been a print seller for a long time, so for sure have a loupe! No dots at all! :)

    I'm not as familiar with photographic processes, though. Since this has a typical glossy finish and it's starting to crack a bit where there are folds, it definitely seems like a photograph. I'm not aware of any prints that would look the way this does in person. But I'm open to learning if I'm mistaken....
     
  13. Pat P

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  14. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Interesting... I had a buyer recently ask me if my scanner had put a green cast on paper items I had listed.

    I do edit my photos to adjust coloring, but I also color-calibrate my monitor. So I've hoped that the color I see at least approximates what others will see. In my scan of this photo that I posted, I don't see a green cast, just a slight yellow tone to match the way the paper has aged.

    If others see a green cast here, I'd appreciate if you could let me know so I can look into whether or not I need to adjust my settings. Thanks!
     
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  15. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Kiko. :) Good catch about the windows being open!
     
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  16. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Now that I'm thinking about it, if the photo was taken when the sky was as dark as it appears, I'd think at least some lights would be on in the building. Is it odd that no lights seem to be on at all?
     
  17. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I haven't found my image on the web, but this one has the same feel. I haven't seen a credit for who the photographer was, though.

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  18. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Hmm... I meant to say "What, me overthink things?..." Don't know how I ended up typing "rethink" instead! :rolleyes:
     
  19. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    I also see a green cast.
     
  20. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Jivvy, thanks for letting me know. I think I better play around with my settings and then check my images on both my husband's laptop and my own and both of our phones.

    I sell things people mostly buy because of what they look like and a green cast on everything's not a good situation! :woot:
     
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