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Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Michelle Collins, May 7, 2019.

  1. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ok let me rephrase that.;)
    Uhmm, it is too complicated for me.:(
     
  2. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Further edits needed :)

    I also take screen shots with magnifier app Swiss Army Knife on my phone. Still taking votes on the best one. It's jumpy, but you can stabilize it.

    Screen shots have to be cropped and resized...
     
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  3. Michelle Collins

    Michelle Collins Well-Known Member

    Trying my best Looks like an animal to me. And a dog or bear peaking out of a cave. LOL 2019-05-07-15-04-17-792 (1).jpg 2019-05-07-15-05-00-587 (1).jpg 2019-05-07-15-04-00-866.jpg
     
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  4. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Maybe a sun on the left?

    Much better!
     
  5. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It looks like it wants to be marked. Some North African pieces weren't marked at all no matter how hard you look.

    I use a real camera and a 40x loupe. It'll work with a phone camera too, but not as easily; my camera has a neck strap and I need one less hand.
     
  6. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    You shoot through a jeweler's loupe? Actually does sound easier than the phone app - if I had a decent camera!
     
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  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Sure do - it's easier with a rug magnifier but I've used my 40x loupe when need be. The rug magnifier unfolds into its own stand and acts like a fixed focus if you plop it on top of the piece to be magnified. They're used to count knots, but work nicely for reading marks. It's a little harder with the loupe, but not much. Just hold it next to your camera lens and move around until everything in the field is in focus. Or the bit you need anyway.
     
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  8. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Oh, like a linen tester?
     
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  9. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Probably close enough.
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    No, not a mark I know.:hilarious:
    They are mostly just random casting flaws, maybe all of them. If you polish the rim you may be able to see more detail on one or two?
    But if they look like a dog or bear peaking out of a cave or a sun, they are not silver marks.;)
     
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  11. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Could be. I was thinking the round shape in the second picture could be a Sultan's or Beyic mark. The old Beyic/Sultan's marks and later French marks sometimes appear together on one piece, if it was re-assayed at a later date. A bit of polish could help.
     
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  13. Michelle Collins

    Michelle Collins Well-Known Member

    OK I will try to polish and take some more photos. Thanks so much for you help.
     
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  14. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    You may use a broken end of a wooden match to brush/clean into the marks, this won't damage the hallmark motif and will make it more distinct :)
     
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  15. Michelle Collins

    Michelle Collins Well-Known Member

    I don't have any wooden matches can I use a wood toothpick?
     
  16. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

    CCDB9EC8-DDBA-4098-AA0F-91E559CBD33A.jpeg Maybe looks like 3 tiny stars here?
     
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  17. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Of course, just use a broken end as it will act as a brush! Wooden toothpicks are my fav tools for my kyratisations :joyful:
     
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  18. Michelle Collins

    Michelle Collins Well-Known Member

    Here are a few more I tried to clean out the crevasses but I think I need to do a little more. DSC_0326.jpg DSC_0314.jpg DSC_0318.jpg
     
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  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I don't see anything that is an actual mark. @kyratango has better eyes, maybe she sees something familiar.:)
     
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  20. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Not sure now it is actual marks... Maybe just metal dents...:bucktooth:
     
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