Any info on hand painted? oriental vase - no Made in China; doesn't that age it?

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  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Can anyone tell me anything about this vase? I believe it's hand painted & on the bottom there is no Made in China or Made in Japan - doesn't that age it to the pre 1930's or something?
    Any info or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
    Thank you!

    POTTERY VASE ORIENTAL BUTTERFLY 2AA.JPG POTTERY VASE ORIENTAL BUTTERFLY 3AA.JPG POTTERY VASE ORIENTAL BUTTERFLY 6A_AA.JPG POTTERY VASE ORIENTAL BUTTERFLY 6AA.JPG POTTERY VASE ORIENTAL BUTTERFLY 6AAA.JPG
     
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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    No. Often on a paper sticker which falls off, or purchased by a tourist overseas.

    Looks relatively modern. I'll look at Gotheborg.
     
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  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Does look similar to some of the mid-20th century Qianlong "honorific" marks in Gotheborg. Did not find an exact match, but closest is #317 under the Qianlong heading.
     
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  4. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I'll try googling gothenburg, thanks
     
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  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

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  6. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    I've been here before but I've never heard of Gothenburg and didn't know there was info here - but I appreciate the info VERY much!
     
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  7. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    NOT GOTHENBURG. IT'S GOTHEBORG. As Bakers said.
     
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  8. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

  9. Miscstuff

    Miscstuff Sometimesgetsitright

    Think of a star trek enemy. Go the Borg.:D
     
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  10. JayBee

    JayBee Well-Known Member

    The characters read Made in the Qing Dinasty, Tong Zhi years. (大清同治年制)
    Rather coarse and crude.

     
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  11. Pat Dennis

    Pat Dennis Member

    Looks real to me. This is a very popular and collectible Antique Chinese Quin pattern with several names...Butterfly and Cabbage, Cabbage and Butterfly and just Cabbage. The light turquoise color on the bottom is right. Later copies are a stronger and darker turquoise. The mark is not a common one.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-CH...632159?hash=item36787c169f:g:7IEAAOSwr-5gZQyw

    Google: Chinese cabbage butterfly and click on "Images".

    You will be smiling in a minute. Congrats!
     
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  12. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

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  13. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thank you JayBee - I thought it was really pretty and ... different (it had IT!!)
     
  14. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Pat Dennis, mine is almost 1/3 larger - make a difference? (mine is 9 7/8" x 7" - about the size of a Pringle can!)

    POTTERY VASE ORIENTAL BUTTERFLY 1AA.JPG
     
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