Anyone have any Ideas on these?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by necollectors, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    A decent shot of the backs would help. The buckle is just that. The black cameo might be 1930s Czech glass, but it's hard to be sure from the photo.
     
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  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I can't see the cameo well enough to have much idea about. It's obviously meant to look like jet. Whether it is or not...? A view of the back would be helpful, as well as some closer pix of the front & edge. Try photographing on black background; it may improve contrast if you're like me & camera is on automatic.
     
  4. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

  5. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I answered on the other thread.
    You posted this twice.
     
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  6. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    If you don't get an answer right away, please don't start a new thread.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    So did I.:(:arghh:
    Ok, here is my post from the other thread:

    necollectors, could you photograph them separately?
    The black brooch could be vulcanite or another jet lookalike. As cluttered said, we also need to see the backs. And a sideview of the black brooch please.
     
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  8. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

    I did NOT mean to start a second thread guys...it happened accidently by me hitting a back button somehow...I apologize!
     

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  9. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

    IMG_20191208_092145_483.jpg IMG_20191208_092145_483.jpg back.jpg
     

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  10. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

    leaf.jpg leaf.jpg leaf.jpg leaf back missing pin.jpg
     

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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Cameo appears to be glass. Figure may be 'applied', i.e., glued on. Probably Czech.
     
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  13. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

    There appears to be a makers mark on the cameo cameo makers mark.jpg
     
  14. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

    Looking closer you are most likely correct, the back is glass and the cameo figure doesn't appear to be, under a loupe it has a bit of crazing. What typically was the composition? If you were to date this, 1900s and Czech? Is this considered a mourning piece and would it have been in a frame of some sort?
     
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  15. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    The leaf looks like it was a dress clip and the back snapped off :(
     
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  16. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Just because it is black does not mean it was part of the fashion for mourning jewellery, which started in emulation of Queen Victoria after Prince Albert died. She died in 1901 & the look was already in decline.

    The Bohemians/Czechs were known for their glass & made components that were exported & assembled into finished pieces elsewhere. This figure is the goddess Ceres/Demeter. Some older molded glass does craze.

    It's not clear to me how this was worn. I don't see marks where any type of findings were attached. May have had pin back glued on.
     
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  17. i need help

    i need help Well-Known Member

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  18. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

    What do you all think? age on these? Worth? The buckle has me stumped...says Germany on reverse but to me it lookd like celluloid, or featherweight bakelite????
     
  19. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It looks like the cameo is actually very dark purple.
    The Germans used many if not all of the early plastics in jewellery and accessories. Their favourites were celluloid, galalith and catalin. They used bakelite, but not nearly as much as the US manufacturers.
     
  20. necollectors

    necollectors Well-Known Member

    I just relooked at it, the cameo is VERY black for sure. ANY JEWELRY...what do you think of the 3 for age and worth?
     
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