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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 100589, member: 44"]I found several botany books on the web by Birckman that no doubt you found also. Soooo all of the following is probably no news to you; however, if not news.... Following is a link to <i>Bernard Quaritch ... Catalogue, Issues 173-180</i>, 1897. It has a few listings on pages 44 and 45 to what this plate (or an original plate) may have been printed on. There is one that may answer af's question for why in English. It is the first **English translation** of Birckman and Collen of <i>Turner's Herbal. </i>The translation was by Jonathan Hollybush and "imprinted by Collen by Arnold Birckman."</p><p><br /></p><p>"681 Turner's Herbal First Edition</p><p>...</p><p>...</p><p>...</p><p>A most excellant & perfecte Homish Apothecarye ... Translated ... by Jhon Hollybush. Imprinted by Collen by Arnold Birckman M.D.LXI."</p><p><br /></p><p>p. 44, scroll down to "681 Turner's Herbal First Edition," 4th paragrah:</p><p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=rKhFAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA45&lpg=RA3-PA45&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=b6uUQ7n7nu&sig=wWoeN5UFdIT25QNhagM17zyq2a0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEIKzAC#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD%20BIRCKMAN%20&f=false" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://books.google.com/books?id=rKhFAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA45&lpg=RA3-PA45&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=b6uUQ7n7nu&sig=wWoeN5UFdIT25QNhagM17zyq2a0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEIKzAC#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD%20BIRCKMAN%20&f=false" rel="nofollow">https://books.google.com/books?id=rKhFAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA45&lpg=RA3-PA45&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=b6uUQ7n7nu&sig=wWoeN5UFdIT25QNhagM17zyq2a0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEIKzAC#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD BIRCKMAN &f=false</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I just reread your original posting and looked at the pics. I now see that plate says MDLXII for 1562 rather than MDLXI. Oh, well, am leaving the above pp. 44 and 45 of this catalog have other listings for "Imprinted by Collen by Arnold Birckman" for the years 1561 and 1562, MDLXI and MDLXII.</p><p><br /></p><p>I want to emphasis that I do not know whether your plate is original or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: here is another mention of <i>Bernard Quaritch ... Catalogue, Issues 146-150</i>, listing of Turner's Herbal, 1st edition, with by Collen by Arnold Birckman.</p><p><br /></p><p>Page 12 but starts on p. 11 with #174 Turner. This is under the Botany section:</p><p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=ZYoDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=Z2-i4UEvoq&sig=HW2npKFxtQYnybdG0VwKtKJz6tU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEILjAD#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD%20BIRCKMAN%20book%20plate&f=false" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://books.google.com/books?id=ZYoDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=Z2-i4UEvoq&sig=HW2npKFxtQYnybdG0VwKtKJz6tU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEILjAD#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD%20BIRCKMAN%20book%20plate&f=false" rel="nofollow">https://books.google.com/books?id=ZYoDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=Z2-i4UEvoq&sig=HW2npKFxtQYnybdG0VwKtKJz6tU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEILjAD#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD BIRCKMAN book plate&f=false</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 100589, member: 44"]I found several botany books on the web by Birckman that no doubt you found also. Soooo all of the following is probably no news to you; however, if not news.... Following is a link to [I]Bernard Quaritch ... Catalogue, Issues 173-180[/I], 1897. It has a few listings on pages 44 and 45 to what this plate (or an original plate) may have been printed on. There is one that may answer af's question for why in English. It is the first **English translation** of Birckman and Collen of [I]Turner's Herbal. [/I]The translation was by Jonathan Hollybush and "imprinted by Collen by Arnold Birckman." "681 Turner's Herbal First Edition ... ... ... A most excellant & perfecte Homish Apothecarye ... Translated ... by Jhon Hollybush. Imprinted by Collen by Arnold Birckman M.D.LXI." p. 44, scroll down to "681 Turner's Herbal First Edition," 4th paragrah: [URL='https://books.google.com/books?id=rKhFAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA45&lpg=RA3-PA45&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=b6uUQ7n7nu&sig=wWoeN5UFdIT25QNhagM17zyq2a0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEIKzAC#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD%20BIRCKMAN%20&f=false']https://books.google.com/books?id=rKhFAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA3-PA45&lpg=RA3-PA45&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=b6uUQ7n7nu&sig=wWoeN5UFdIT25QNhagM17zyq2a0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEIKzAC#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD BIRCKMAN &f=false[/URL] I just reread your original posting and looked at the pics. I now see that plate says MDLXII for 1562 rather than MDLXI. Oh, well, am leaving the above pp. 44 and 45 of this catalog have other listings for "Imprinted by Collen by Arnold Birckman" for the years 1561 and 1562, MDLXI and MDLXII. I want to emphasis that I do not know whether your plate is original or not. --- Susan Edit: here is another mention of [I]Bernard Quaritch ... Catalogue, Issues 146-150[/I], listing of Turner's Herbal, 1st edition, with by Collen by Arnold Birckman. Page 12 but starts on p. 11 with #174 Turner. This is under the Botany section: [URL='https://books.google.com/books?id=ZYoDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=Z2-i4UEvoq&sig=HW2npKFxtQYnybdG0VwKtKJz6tU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEILjAD#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD%20BIRCKMAN%20book%20plate&f=false']https://books.google.com/books?id=ZYoDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=ARNOLD+BIRCKMAN+book+plate&source=bl&ots=Z2-i4UEvoq&sig=HW2npKFxtQYnybdG0VwKtKJz6tU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifr--Z9NjJAhWKOiYKHZKwD_IQ6AEILjAD#v=onepage&q=ARNOLD BIRCKMAN book plate&f=false[/URL][/QUOTE]
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