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Message:: [QUOTE="say_it_slowly, post: 541505, member: 50"]There is a reference to J. Giles and a painting called "Effects of the Rifle" in the 1846 journal. I have no idea what relevance it has but I wonder if the artist Tavish/Tavich was copying a J Giles painting. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=XDEFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=%22effects+of+the+rifle%22++painting&source=bl&ots=piJcrtfAX_&sig=ACfU3U1mg95E0Gle9oE_oyNM2oVlmVEj2g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXlODN1obhAhWlo1kKHTXxC98Q6AEwBnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22effects%20of%20the%20rifle%22%20%20painting&f=false" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://books.google.com/books?id=XDEFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=%22effects+of+the+rifle%22++painting&source=bl&ots=piJcrtfAX_&sig=ACfU3U1mg95E0Gle9oE_oyNM2oVlmVEj2g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXlODN1obhAhWlo1kKHTXxC98Q6AEwBnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22effects%20of%20the%20rifle%22%20%20painting&f=false" rel="nofollow">https://books.google.com/books?id=XDEFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq="effects+of+the+rifle"++painting&source=bl&ots=piJcrtfAX_&sig=ACfU3U1mg95E0Gle9oE_oyNM2oVlmVEj2g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXlODN1obhAhWlo1kKHTXxC98Q6AEwBnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q="effects of the rifle" painting&f=false</a> [ATTACH=full]168540[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]