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<p>[QUOTE="2manybooks, post: 10391600, member: 8267"]I have exhausted my brain trying to figure these out, without success. But here are some thoughts -</p><p><br /></p><p>The fabrics used, and the machine stitching, might point to Europe or at least "western", as opposed to African or other purely "tribal" origin. I associate the use of felt with eastern Europe, or perhaps a bit farther east such as Turkey and Central Asia.</p><p><br /></p><p>Many of the beads look slightly irregular in size/shape, and some appear more cylindrical/tube shaped rather than typical round seed beads. I can't see the iridescent ones well enough to see their shape. The mix of irregular and more uniform sizes might indicate a date around the mid 20th c (or later if some older beads were being used). The choice of blue and orange/red colors might reflect a tradition of coral and turquoise.</p><p><br /></p><p>The diamond shape is a common motif in many Islamic arts, and the shape on your pieces is a bit like that found on some Turkish rugs -</p><p>[ATTACH=full]522988[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://www.kilim.com/detail/k0062766-vintage-turkish-hand-knotted-rug" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.kilim.com/detail/k0062766-vintage-turkish-hand-knotted-rug" rel="nofollow">https://www.kilim.com/detail/k0062766-vintage-turkish-hand-knotted-rug</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]522989[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://theknottedfox.com/products/slyvie" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://theknottedfox.com/products/slyvie" rel="nofollow">https://theknottedfox.com/products/slyvie</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Clearly intended as a pair, they might have been created for some sort of garment. Perhaps, similar to the neck/front bands on this "chyrpy" woman's robe from Turkmenistan -</p><p>[ATTACH=full]522991[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="https://virtual-artifacts.tumblr.com/tagged/tribal/page/5" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://virtual-artifacts.tumblr.com/tagged/tribal/page/5" rel="nofollow">https://virtual-artifacts.tumblr.com/tagged/tribal/page/5</a></p><p><br /></p><p>These robes are decorated with embroidery, however. I can find no examples that use beadwork.</p><p><br /></p><p>On a completely different track, the beadwork on your pieces reminds me of some done in Haitian Vodoun objects. These are derived from old West African traditions, hence the similarity to some Yoruba beadwork. But again, I cannot find any precise comparisons.</p><p><br /></p><p>Or, they could just be some art-deco projects from some bored house wife.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="2manybooks, post: 10391600, member: 8267"]I have exhausted my brain trying to figure these out, without success. But here are some thoughts - The fabrics used, and the machine stitching, might point to Europe or at least "western", as opposed to African or other purely "tribal" origin. I associate the use of felt with eastern Europe, or perhaps a bit farther east such as Turkey and Central Asia. Many of the beads look slightly irregular in size/shape, and some appear more cylindrical/tube shaped rather than typical round seed beads. I can't see the iridescent ones well enough to see their shape. The mix of irregular and more uniform sizes might indicate a date around the mid 20th c (or later if some older beads were being used). The choice of blue and orange/red colors might reflect a tradition of coral and turquoise. The diamond shape is a common motif in many Islamic arts, and the shape on your pieces is a bit like that found on some Turkish rugs - [ATTACH=full]522988[/ATTACH] [URL]https://www.kilim.com/detail/k0062766-vintage-turkish-hand-knotted-rug[/URL] [ATTACH=full]522989[/ATTACH] [URL]https://theknottedfox.com/products/slyvie[/URL] Clearly intended as a pair, they might have been created for some sort of garment. Perhaps, similar to the neck/front bands on this "chyrpy" woman's robe from Turkmenistan - [ATTACH=full]522991[/ATTACH] [URL]https://virtual-artifacts.tumblr.com/tagged/tribal/page/5[/URL] These robes are decorated with embroidery, however. I can find no examples that use beadwork. On a completely different track, the beadwork on your pieces reminds me of some done in Haitian Vodoun objects. These are derived from old West African traditions, hence the similarity to some Yoruba beadwork. But again, I cannot find any precise comparisons. Or, they could just be some art-deco projects from some bored house wife.[/QUOTE]
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