Featured Beatrice Cenci drawing

Discussion in 'Art' started by manny, Sep 20, 2020.

  1. manny

    manny Active Member

    Hi guys what you think of this drawing? can anyone ID the initials on the back? when it was done? sure it looks old, any opinion appreciated thank you IMG_1926.JPG IMG_1928.JPG IMG_1932.JPG IMG_1934.JPG IMG_1937.JPG IMG_1938.JPG
     
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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Looks like a hand colored engraving to me.
     
  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    As I was just about to say. :)

    The initials are likely to have been those of an owner, not the artist. It kind of looks like an engraving that has been colored.

    Addition: Just because it's an engraving does not mean that it's not old or not high quality.
     
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  4. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    What's the size, since you have the frame off??? Thank you!
     
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  5. mmarco102

    mmarco102 Well-Known Member

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  6. Van_Poperin

    Van_Poperin Active Member

    Percy Shelley fans will be interested in this, along with history and art collectors
     
  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Contemporary consensus is that the sitter was not Beatrice & the painter was not Reni. You see school of Reni, circle of Reni, Elisabetta Sirani, circle of Elisabetta Sirani, Bolognese school... But in Shelley's day she was believed to be Cenci by 'Guido'.

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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  9. manny

    manny Active Member

    Hi this not engraving I used close up to show the lines
    Hi, it's 9 by 6.5 inches, and its a drawing not a colored engraving as this guys are saying
     
  10. manny

    manny Active Member

    Yes to you but to me who happens to hold it open say it's a drawing
     
  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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    When we see an image created by thousands of tiny black parallel lines, we believe we are looking at a technique used in engraving, not in drawing. When it is not in black & white, we conclude it has been colored. We are analysing the evidence you have provided & telling you what we think, as requested. Perhaps you know an artist who can draw these fine, exact lines by hand. I do not know of one.

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    The colorist missed her left pupil:

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    As in so many reproductions, she is looking at the viewer instead of down.
     
  12. mmarco102

    mmarco102 Well-Known Member

    @manny, trust her. She as well as others are trying to help you. Its what they do best.
     
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  13. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    THOSE ARE EXTREMELY PRECISE lines for ANY ARTIST to be trying to do by HAND... my vote also goes with Engraving.......and it IS VERY NICE!!!
     
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