Featured Bidders be aware!!! Christie's is selling fake antiques through online auction!

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Asian Fever, Sep 21, 2017.

  1. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

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  2. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yeah, i can't say i am surprised! Auction houses are basically middle men, their biz is moving product in the front door & out the back door at a profit.
    And, since asian antiques are "hot" right now it stands to reason some are questionable.
  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That could cost them if they try it in the UK.
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    And they are supposed to have experts to judge and appraise the items.....
  6. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yeah but those are mostly 20 something kids out of school with an art history major, then catalogue dead lines, photo shoots, bla bla bla. If you read most auction house disclosures which are written by lawyers, the buyer is responsible for EVERYTHING!
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  7. Asian Fever

    Asian Fever Well-Known Member

    They do have experts to appraise the items, but they just name the auction as collectibles and sell new items with antique descriptions. That is ugly.
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  8. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yeah, is and, it's what gives the antique industry a bad name, nobody trusts, everything is fake and most people today do not have the time to educate themselves. This translates into, GO AWAY ANTIQUE PEOPLE! i am goin to IKEA!
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  9. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    I don't know about Christie's, but all the auctions I have attended include a very precise disclaimer as part of the auction terms, such as:"no representation is made as to the age, condition, authenticity, ethnic or tribal origin of the items auctioned. Buyers must inspect the items they are bidding on and satisfy themselves as to the nature of the items."
    Nonetheless, more reputable houses do have experts, and the ones I deal with can be trusted....if one is careful to inspect the items.
    But even the best of the ones I am familiar with are not really guaranteeing authenticity, when they have a written disclaimer as part of the auction terms.
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  10. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    EXACTLY! It's buyer beware in antique buying at auctions.
  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Always has been. I bought a jewelry jar today at the Ill Will, and the bracelet I saw that made me go on it has a broken clasp. That's on me. The auction houses are the same way. You buy it, it's your problem unless there's fraud or theft involved ...and then it's still your problem.
  12. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    Antique Doll collecting is the same way, the market is flooded with repros, fakes etc, some of them very well done. It's only with 40 yrs of collecting that I can spot a fake repro .. the old bisque itself has a silky feel to it that the newer ones don't have, the face-painting is a dead give-away too .. the answer is of course is to KNOW your subject, the feel, the look .. and if ones not sure they can always come here!! :). And even then sometimes the buyer wants to INSIST that they have the real thing and don't really want an opinion. .. Joy.
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