Featured Black Clay Whistle?

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by cxgirl, Apr 14, 2019 at 6:27 PM.

  1. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Hi All,
    Would this be a black clay whistle from Peru? Souvenir tourist piece? No marks on the base, 6"H.
    any information appreciated
    thanks for looking
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Moche vessel....

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    some more interesting than others...........;););):eek:
     
  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    He's playing an ocarina. Beyond that...dunno.

    As for the one Komo found, they're playing something else!
     
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  4. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thanks komokwa, will check out Moche vessel:)
    lol, evelyb30:)
     
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  5. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Yes, modern souvenir version - but of a Chimu vessel rather than Moche. Moche usually terracotta color, while Chimu usually black. A different firing technique, but otherwise quite similar tradition.
     
  6. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thank-you 2manybooks, using Chimu I'm finding black clay pieces:)
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I'd say it is a combination of Mochica and Chimú. The two cultures are Moche, but different time periods.
    It has the Mochica (older Moche) shape in both the stirrup vessel and the realistic face, but it is black like Chimú (later Moche) ceramics.
    He is playing a flute rather than an ocarina. Ocarinas are originally a Chinese invention, adapted by an Italian in the 19th century.;)
     
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  8. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    OT: there is some uncertainty about the origin of the ocarina; and there was likely parallel development; ocarinas were known in the Mayan and Aztec cultures, and in India, around 5,000 BCE; and a stone-age example has been found in Europe, dating to around 10,000 BCE. Giuseppe Donati is credited with inventing the modern ocarina in 1853, but it is generally thought he was influenced by the Latin American versions more than the Chinese.
     
  9. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

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