Black Knight Pheasants and Fruits Plates Fine China

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  1. Robin Kephart

    Robin Kephart New Member

    I can’t seem to find much information on these dishes. Can anyone assist?
     

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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    You can see that the gold mark is covering another mark. That indicates a decorator company using blanks from someone else.
     
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  3. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    I read in a listing that the Black Knight is the mark of N.Y. importer Graham and Zenger, used about 1925-41, but you should verify.
     
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  4. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Interestingly, I had a soup bowl apparently from the same decorator, but I guess no other mark to cover:
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  5. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

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  8. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Lovely plate!
     
  9. Chandler In Las Vegas

    Chandler In Las Vegas Active Member

    Black Selb 1a.jpg Black Selb 2 stamp.jpg It appears to me that a simple blank would not need a registered pat, number. Has anyone else found that Continental "blanks" can include the gold verge and rim? I see the same verges and rims across many patterns as I do with those eternal medallion basket decals. I have a dozen of these^^^ in black with simple, un-encrusted verge and rim. The back stamp is the size of a tic-tac and the picture was the best of a dozen. I seem to have the gold foot on most of my "German-ish" plates as well.
     

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  10. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure what you're asking, but the OP's plate seems to indicate that the decoration is registered, not the blank.
     
  11. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    If you hold the plate to a strong light, you might be able to make out the name under that gold mark.
     
  12. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    They definitely made some of the most beautiful & elegant Restaurantware i've ever seen.Here's a piece I found on Ebay w/a crest & the title 'Coronado'. Whether this is for the famous Hotel Del Coronado in San Diego,who knows ?
    PS-Some of Hutschenreuther's figural pieces seem command decent money.


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  13. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    There were tons of American-made china companies back then,so perhaps the 'Black Knight' line offered something different from Mayer,Shenango,Homer Laughlin,etc ?
     
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  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

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  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    The Coronado expedition ended in eastern Kansas, almost reaching St. Louis which explains the name.

    Debora
     
  16. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Debora-The Coronado sat vacant for decades,but then was bought & restored & became student housing & retail space.These old grand old hotels are some of America's best historic architecture & so many have been demolished-good to see a survivor.
     
  17. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I agree.

    Debora
     
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