Blue and White Pottery Collection - Probate valuations (Part II)

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  1. Frances144

    Frances144 Member

    Two men talking over a wall, cottage and church in background.

    Plate version

    (I am praying to the Gods that those vile wire plate hangers have not damaged anything).
     

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  2. Frances144

    Frances144 Member

    Man standing with camel.

    No obvious cracks but certainly some chipping around edge.
     

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  3. Frances144

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    Cows and sheep in field in front of building (?ruin?)
     

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  4. Frances144

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    Three Giraffes with two men (one sat down, possibly smoking) and tents

    Oval platter with handles this time
     

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  6. laura9797

    laura9797 Well-Known Member

    Just curious but for probate, shouldn't you be using fair market valuation on completed sales such as www.liveauctioneers.com? When I was accredited appraiser with the ISA, we were not using online storefronts because they were considered retail/replacement value.
     
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  7. Frances144

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    I asked the Trustees and Executors and they said they were happy with this method. We may, of course, resort to a Probate valuer but see how we go.
     
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  8. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    If blue transferware is the only estate item in question, I doubt it will be worthwhile to hire anybody to pay them to value these. The pieces shown in this thread appear to be nicer than the ones in the last. Please note, I am not an expert in this field, only a collector from yesteryear. It seems most of these have damages. I love the giraffe platter, tho it's probably in good shape it may not be perfect.
     
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  9. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    Was the Part I posted on this board in the past? Must have missed it. I am at a loss as to what you are asking for help with? I thought we didn't do valuations or appraisals here. Anything else would just be advice to look on line for sold items. Even if we were trying to find a value, a single photo of the item isn't much to work with. You could just post it on Google images. Not trying to be rude, just curious.
     
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  10. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    The possible value may vary by maker so marks may be important. Sometimes the same print was used by more than one company and it may or may not affect the value even it someone here felt comfortable guessing.
     
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  11. Frances144

    Frances144 Member

    Ok, thank you. I did read the rules but if you don't do valuations, I will remove my posts. Identification would help, though.
    I was told that there were a few of a little value and the rest had just been picked up in various junk shops around UK. Nothing great and many broken and mended. Hence why we are not asking for professional valuer as there is little of any great worth.
     
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  12. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    If you're in the UK, I'd honestly not bust a gut on being precise about valuing things for probate. I've done it four times now. Unless you've got something howlingly valuable, the Revenue aren't fussed. I'm not seeing anything worth more than a quid or two, to be honest.
     
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  14. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Bear, this is my opinion also.
     
  15. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Ordinarily we don't but we have no rule about it. In this case of a probate and a general overall value is needed, well I don't see anything in part one and part two of this collection that, cumulatively, could be worth more than a grand.. and likely much less... It will be up to the OP to post individual pieces for identification.
     
  16. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, anti, that clears up a few things for me.
     
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  17. Frances144

    Frances144 Member

    Thank you. If you see something of huge value, please message me. I was told there was nothing much of huge value.
     
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  18. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    The best Staffordshire blue and white can sell well but I would expect no more than £30-£40 for a typical plate and up to £100 for a platter. You need to identify each piece to make sure there’s not a rarity amongst them but only one or two have sold for over £100 on eBay recently.
     
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  19. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That's retail though, which isn't what the Revenue use for probate. Probate is way less.
     
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  20. Frances144

    Frances144 Member

    Thank you. That's what I sort of reckoned. There is nothing of great value.
     
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