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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 500342, member: 2844"]Welcome to the forum, Curious.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a Dutch anti-Orangist I must say these glasses made my heart beat faster. I hope the glassies among us can confirm they are ca 1800. If so, these are extremely rare.</p><p>The background of these glasses is complicated even for Dutch people, so bear with me.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The 'Republiek' is the 'Bataafse Republiek' or Batavian Republic, 1795-1806.</p><p>It was called after the Batavians, a Germanic-Celtic nation which lived in the Netherlands during Roman times. The Batavians fought the Romans and were a symbol of Dutch independence during Republican times, much later.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the 16th century the Netherlands, which include Holland, became the first modern republic in the world. This led to the Golden Age of the northern Netherlands. Think Rembrandt, Vermeer, etc.</p><p>Ever since the founding of the Republic, one family, the Orange-Nassaus, used every means they could to try and take power. Several statesmen of the Republic, or State, were murdered, and there was a constant power struggle between Statists and Orangists, and a few military clashes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Things came to a head in the second half of the 18th century, when the Statist military got support from private militias against the Orangists. The Orangists were supported by German nobles.</p><p>With support from the private militias, the Statist Republic was considered viable by several other countries, and they received extra military support from the French.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 1795 the Orange-Nassau of the day fled the country, which heralded the start of the Bataafse Republiek. The BR was a continuation of the Statist Republic, but with new, enlightened ideals.</p><p>The only way the BR could survive in Royalist Europe was with official recognition from the French, which they got in return for substantial annual payments and they were forced to accept a French military force on Dutch soil. Political, state, legal and civil matters remained in Dutch hands.</p><p><br /></p><p>With the conservative Orangists out of the way, the BR introduced a new rule, egalitarian laws and civil rights, inspired by the early French Republic.</p><p>But as the French Republic became more radical, the BR remained true to the early ideals. Because of this the French came to see the BR as an insubordinate vassal state, and, as sole supporter of the young republic, managed to strengthen its grip on the BR.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 1805 Napoleon decided the BR had gone to far (or not far enough), and took power, aided by the French military which were already in the country. He appointed his brother Louis the first king of the Netherlands.</p><p>This was the end of the Bataafse Republiek. For a few years some of the ideals of the BR continued, because against his brother's wishes Louis continued many of the reforms which had been started by the BR.</p><p><br /></p><p>Apologies for the long background story.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie86" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>I'd love to hear from the glassies if they think these glasses could be ca 1800. The shape is not unusual for the period, here is an 18th century Dutch glass:</p><p><img src="https://s14-eu5.startpage.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Ft0.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcSpsOsdmcBI4Dybsf-684RVYYFo4TdZSqZnAJtNlvVDyaxcQ-Yx&sp=0c8961624ed97dd3c7b80969161cc21a&anticache=997825" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="http://www.lemaireantiek.nl/epages/78239537.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/78239537/Products/93" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.lemaireantiek.nl/epages/78239537.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/78239537/Products/93" rel="nofollow">http://www.lemaireantiek.nl/epages/78239537.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/78239537/Products/93</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 500342, member: 2844"]Welcome to the forum, Curious. As a Dutch anti-Orangist I must say these glasses made my heart beat faster. I hope the glassies among us can confirm they are ca 1800. If so, these are extremely rare. The background of these glasses is complicated even for Dutch people, so bear with me.;) The 'Republiek' is the 'Bataafse Republiek' or Batavian Republic, 1795-1806. It was called after the Batavians, a Germanic-Celtic nation which lived in the Netherlands during Roman times. The Batavians fought the Romans and were a symbol of Dutch independence during Republican times, much later. In the 16th century the Netherlands, which include Holland, became the first modern republic in the world. This led to the Golden Age of the northern Netherlands. Think Rembrandt, Vermeer, etc. Ever since the founding of the Republic, one family, the Orange-Nassaus, used every means they could to try and take power. Several statesmen of the Republic, or State, were murdered, and there was a constant power struggle between Statists and Orangists, and a few military clashes. Things came to a head in the second half of the 18th century, when the Statist military got support from private militias against the Orangists. The Orangists were supported by German nobles. With support from the private militias, the Statist Republic was considered viable by several other countries, and they received extra military support from the French. In 1795 the Orange-Nassau of the day fled the country, which heralded the start of the Bataafse Republiek. The BR was a continuation of the Statist Republic, but with new, enlightened ideals. The only way the BR could survive in Royalist Europe was with official recognition from the French, which they got in return for substantial annual payments and they were forced to accept a French military force on Dutch soil. Political, state, legal and civil matters remained in Dutch hands. With the conservative Orangists out of the way, the BR introduced a new rule, egalitarian laws and civil rights, inspired by the early French Republic. But as the French Republic became more radical, the BR remained true to the early ideals. Because of this the French came to see the BR as an insubordinate vassal state, and, as sole supporter of the young republic, managed to strengthen its grip on the BR. In 1805 Napoleon decided the BR had gone to far (or not far enough), and took power, aided by the French military which were already in the country. He appointed his brother Louis the first king of the Netherlands. This was the end of the Bataafse Republiek. For a few years some of the ideals of the BR continued, because against his brother's wishes Louis continued many of the reforms which had been started by the BR. Apologies for the long background story.:sorry: I'd love to hear from the glassies if they think these glasses could be ca 1800. The shape is not unusual for the period, here is an 18th century Dutch glass: [IMG]https://s14-eu5.startpage.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Ft0.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcSpsOsdmcBI4Dybsf-684RVYYFo4TdZSqZnAJtNlvVDyaxcQ-Yx&sp=0c8961624ed97dd3c7b80969161cc21a&anticache=997825[/IMG] [URL]http://www.lemaireantiek.nl/epages/78239537.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/78239537/Products/93[/URL][/QUOTE]
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