Featured Box 1 incl. silver broches

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Hi2022, Dec 12, 2021.

  1. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    I did it, It's not very strong but i can smell the fragrance. Perhaps its real amber. But i have ordered the uv Light you mentioned, so when its delivered i'll performance the uv test
     
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  2. Hi2022

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    Ik denk dat de lichtinval is die je doet denken dat er stukjes emaille missen . Alle steentjes en emaille zit onder de glazen oppervlakte.
     
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  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Smelling the scent is good, that means amber. I just looked copal up, it becomes soft when you rub it. So my vote goes to amber.:)
    You can also do the UV test on the red stones in the first two brooches. See if they fluoresce (change colour significantly).
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Bedankt voor de uitleg, het is moeilijk als je het sieraad niet zelf in de hand hebt.

    Hi 2022 just explained that what looked to me like missing stones in the brooch below is an optical illusion.

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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Just an explanation for @Hi2022 , because the literal translation of rhinestone is 'rijnkiezel', which in Dutch terms is genuine rock crystal from the Rhine region:

    'Rhinestones' is de Amerikaanse term voor kristalletjes, het is dus geen echte steen. Ze krijgen soms een extra laagje voor het effect, in dit geval heet dat 'Aurora Borealis'.
     
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  6. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    AB Rhinestones were invented by Swarovski in 1955.
     
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  7. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    UV light was delivered today. no idea if I'm operating the flashlight correctly and what should be done... but ok. here are the pictures. it didn't turn out to be pretty pictures. very difficult to operate the camera and use the flashlight at the same time 20211214_165741_copy_907x1612.jpg 20211214_165743_copy_907x1612.jpg 20211214_165624_copy_1612x907.jpg
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You did it perfectly. I also struggle with taking photos and holding the light.
    The amber has the right fluorescence for amber.:) An extra confirmation after the scent test.
    The red stone looks like glass, which is what I expected.

    Have you tried the stone in the filigree brooch yet?
     
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  9. Hi2022

    Hi2022 Well-Known Member

    :)
    If it was real gem, what shoud i see when use the uv-light? , the second is the blue stone 20211214_165418_copy_907x1612.jpg 20211214_165436_copy_907x1612.jpg
     
  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The red ones looked like glass, and glass they are. The blue one probably is glass too. Real, clear blue stones at that time were generally expensive. Irradiated blue topaz didn't come along until the 1980s. In American, rhinestone = glass. They get called diamante glass in the UK sometimes. Clear quartz bits are "rock crystal" instead of "crystal".
     
  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It depends on the stone. But a stone like a ruby fluoresces. Since you wondered if the filligree brooch had a ruby, you now know.

    Expensive stones are usually found in expensive jewellery.

    They are usually called paste in the UK. Here in the Netherlands we call it kristalletjes.
    Rock crystal is bergkristal.
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I thought paste was a specific sort of older glass. Maybe it used to be.
     
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  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Paste is both specific and generic in the UK. It's now widely used to simply mean jewellery with non precious cut glass stones, diamante to be slightly fancier. But it also in antique terms means good old glass stones, polished with powder. There's a particular kind called black dot paste, which has a dot added to highlight the sparkle. Georgian paste, which I love, has an almost grey tinge to the stones, just as Georgian glass does. Glass didn't get that real white clarity until the recipes changed in the nineteenth century.

    That's a good amber glow.
     
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  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Meanwhile "powder glass" is understood here to be African recycled glass rather than fancy factory cut or molded pieces.
     
  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    As far as I know powder glass has the same meaning around the world. Powder glass beads are mostly West African.
     
  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Just to clarify, paste was polished with metal powder, to get a high shine. Not made from, or rolled in powder.
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is the way I understood it, but it may not have been clear across the pond. All that water, you see.:playful:
     
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  18. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

  19. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    What type of metal powder?
     
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  20. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Iron oxide, from memory.
     
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